<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium; ">d. Transport/health and infrastructure. Who gives a crap if u can get 1Gb speeds if it takes 2 hours to get into work in the morning?</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;">Why does it have to be about speed?? The NBN is more than a Ferrari connection. What about a resilient connection less likely to degrade? </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;">To my knowledge fibre offers no chance of cross-talk, no chance of corrosion, ect,ect</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;">Day in day out this is the kind of stuff Telstra has to fix to get our Adsl working better or at all.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;">What if that could be eliminated?</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium;">Granted fibre may have it's own issues here n there but it's far superior in terms of reliance. And that's what I care for.<br></span><br><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div>-------------</div><div>Andrew Oskam</div></div><div><br>On 19/08/2010, at 8:02 PM, John Glendenning <<a href="mailto:glendenning.j@gmail.com">glendenning.j@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Stuff the political rhetoric, the points that stand out for me are:<br><br>a. I have no faith in the govt to deliver the network without stuffing it - bad track record on every major publicised project so far<br>b. How can a govt that prophesises the benefits of the NBN also recommend filtering it? Get real<br>
c. Our standard of health care was much better in the 70's and 80's and there wasnt even dial-up back then<br>d. Transport/health and infrastructure. Who gives a crap if u can get 1Gb speeds if it takes 2 hours to get into work in the morning?<br>
<br>-----------------------------<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Mark Prior <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mrp@mrp.net"><a href="mailto:mrp@mrp.net">mrp@mrp.net</a></a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On 19/08/10 6:44 PM, John Edwards wrote:<br>
<br>
> With an NBN we get the following to assist with this situation<br>
> - better likelihood of an eHealth system with accurate, readable, up to<br>
> date and non-conflicting records<br>
<br>
</div>My doctor still writes rather than types. I doubt any extra bandwidth<br>
hitting her PC is going to change that.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> - better chance of getting a consult with a regular doctor who is<br>
> already familiar with your problems<br>
<br>
</div>Does the NBN create more time in the day now?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> - if the problem is too serious for a locum/GP, they can refer to a<br>
> specialist instantly - not with an appointment in 2 weeks time<br>
<br>
</div>It's creating specialists too?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> - the same locum can now do 5 consults in the same time it might take<br>
> him to drive someplace and wait for a nurse to direct him to the patient<br>
> - paves the way for practitioner-nurses to act as remote-hands for<br>
> doctors (this is one will probably have to wait for another election -<br>
> more politics involved)<br>
<br>
</div>Well that exists now, come to AusNOG and listen to Laurie Wilson.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> - reduced use of facilities means that when you do have to visit a<br>
> hospital you'll get better service<br>
<br>
</div>We already have ads on the TV for the government's HealthDirect service<br>
trying to keep people out of casualty. Is it working? Will the NBN<br>
change people's attitude?<br>
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