<html><head><base href="x-msg://1826/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Two owners really.<div><br></div><div>Optus really hasn't done a lot with their cable. It doesn't have a massive coverage - SYD/MEL/BNE only.</div><div><br></div><div>I think PRK is right, it's a bit overblown that it's three networks. Especially when such a high proportion of people who have issues with broadband HAVE NO CABLE.</div><div><br></div><div>Foxtel Cable passes only 20% of Australia households for example. 20%! That's it.</div><div><br></div><div>Making it deliver similar capacity to FTTH will require such deep fibre that it looks like FTTN or FTTP eventually anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 14/08/2010, at 9:35 AM, Tim McCullagh wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div>----- Original Message -----</div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="ausnog@digitaljunkie.net" href="mailto:ausnog@digitaljunkie.net">PRK</a></div><div style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><strong></strong> </div><div style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><strong>PRK wrote:</strong></div><div style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><div class="gmail_quote"><div><strong>"Where does your assumption, that replacing Telstra's copper with NBNCo fibre reduces competition, come from?"</strong></div><strong></strong></div><strong></strong></div><strong></strong></blockquote><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><strong><div class="gmail_quote" style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><br></div></strong><div class="gmail_quote" style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>Your kidding aren't you.</strong></font></div><div class="gmail_quote" style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>If you have 3 fixed networks currently and all the IP traffic from them is going to be moved to NBN (monopoly PMG style network) and the copper is to be shutdown then where is the competition going to come from? NBNco will have you by the short and curlys. NBNco will dictate what you can have, there will be no other option. You won't be able to have adsl because the copper won't be available</strong></font></div><div class="gmail_quote" style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div class="gmail_quote" style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><strong><font face="Arial" size="2">I suggest you read the 25million NBN report recommendations and other articles in the public domain about what is being proposed. I would also suggest that quiet a lot of people that think they are going to get fibre may be disappointed and in some cases may end up with a 12MB service of sat or maybe wireless. Mostly in regional areas or city fringe areas.</font> </strong></div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><div class="gmail_quote" style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><div><br></div></div></blockquote><span><ATT00001..txt></span></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div>
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