<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">25100/1336 with a Netcomm NB9 in a unit literally next door to the exchange on new copper.</span><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Grant Moritz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grant@valkyrieit.net.au">grant@valkyrieit.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
25100/1336 with a Netcomm NB9 in a unit literally next door to the exchange on new copper.<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Chris Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Chris.Pollock@staff.pipenetworks.com" target="_blank">Chris.Pollock@staff.pipenetworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes, exactly - not difficult to get full speed at sub1km, in fact it's
expected - every single successful order we've placed has been in deployment
class 9q.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">My question for you MMC is, what's the greatest distance over which
you've achieved full speed per pair?</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">I've got a single pair on a HN402 sync'd at full
speed travelling over 1.9km of copper. It's interesting, the expected
tailoff vs what we see in the real world - the equipment seems to be capable of
better speeds than expected.</font></span></div><div>
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<div><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Cheers,</font></span></div>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt" align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">--<br></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Chris
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew
Moyle-Croft<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 29 July 2010 10:38 AM<br><b>To:</b>
Marcus Emanuel @ HostCorp<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>; Paul
Brooks<div><div></div><div><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Highest ADSL2 internet connection
speed<br></div></div></font><br></div><div><div></div><div>
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<div>On 29/07/2010, at 9:14 AM, Marcus Emanuel @ HostCorp wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="word-spacing:0px;font:medium Helvetica;text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;white-space:normal;letter-spacing:normal;border-collapse:separate">
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<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">Anyone
have any feedback on EFM Circuits and speeds seen, pairs required to bond
for 10Mbit over certain distances
etc?</span></div></div></div></span></blockquote>
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<div>SHDSL is different to ADSL in terms of the deployment classes and how
they're done. </div>
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<div>The limitation about speed is much more related to the deployment class
than what's technically possible. Our EFM equipment quite happily maxes
5.7Mbps/pair when allowed to, but as distance increases beyond 1km, what speed
you're allowed to do drops.</div>
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<div>We have many pairs which are running happily at the 5.7Mbps/pair maximum.
So delivering 10Mbps within 1km or so of the exchange is fairly
straightforward.</div>
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<div>MMC</div><br>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"></span></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">Cheers,</span></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">Marcus.</span></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"></span></div>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:windowtext;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:windowtext;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span> </span>Paul Brooks
[mailto:<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au" target="_blank">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>]<span> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Thursday, 29 July 2010 8:51
AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Marcus
Emanuel<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [AusNOG] Highest ADSL2 internet
connection speed</span></div></div></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">On
28/07/2010 9:33 AM, Marcus Emanuel wrote:</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">This
is a STABLE connection using Internode ADLS2+ Extreme Annex M in York St
Sydney</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">This
is on a Linksys/Cisco WAG 160n</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">Status:
Up</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">Downstream
Rate: 23855 Kbps</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">Upstream
Rate: 2691 Kbps</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"></span></div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">It
doesent beat your 24xxx down but 2.69 up is very
good.</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;color:black;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><br>It
would be VERY interesting to see what it synced at if you turn Annex M mode
off - Annex M 'steals' downstream channels and makes them upstream channels,
and it is the lower frequency channels, which contribute most to the
aggregate, that are most affected. Turning off "annex M mode" is likely to
push at least 1200 kbps or more back to the downstream - and take the
record!<br><br>(if you do try this, please get the customer's permission
first!)<br><br>Paul.</p></div><span><ATT00001..txt></span></div></span></blockquote></div><br>
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<div>-- <br>Matthew Moyle-Croft</div>
<div>Peering Manager and Team Lead - Commercial and DSLAMs</div>
<div>Internode /Agile</div>
<div>Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000
Australia<br>Email: <a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au" target="_blank">mmc@internode.com.au</a>
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