<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would be honoured to write a DB and portable C application for this :D<br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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</font></span></i></font></div></span></i></font></div></span></span></i></font></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><br><div><div>On 20/07/2010, at 16:46, Darren Moss wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>If only the database was actually properly maintained and you *could* find contacts for troublesome hosts.<br><br>I have lost count of the number of networks we've blocked because the contact information is stale or wrong.<br><br>I suggested many times to APNIC that they have some method of ensuring contact information was up to date - ie: as part of IP Allocation to members - but they were not interested. <br><br>If not APNIC, who should / could do this ?<br><br><br>Regards, <br><br><br>Darren Moss<br>General Manager<br>Australia and New Zealand<br>[p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287<br>[e] <a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a> [w] <a href="http://www.em3.com.au">www.em3.com.au</a><br><br>em3 People and Technology | Managed Technology Experts<br>postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189<br><br>New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City<br>postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>[p] 09 887 0550 [f] 09 887 0273<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of p8x<br>Sent: Tuesday, 20 July 2010 4:12 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] APNIC WHOIS<br><br>I would say you are fine.<br><br>On the APNIC whois page:<br><br>"The APNIC Whois Database is a publicly searchable database detailing address usage within the Asia Pacific region. The results of any search are provided purely for operational purposes (such as finding the authoritative contact for a troublesome machine) and are not to be used for commercial or marketing purposes." [1]<br><br>On the privacy page:<br><br>"Some of the personal information you provide may be publicly registered in the APNIC Whois Database. This is limited to contact details relating to the allocation of specific public Internet resources.<br><br>Please note that in relation to these network contact details, the APNIC Whois Database allows organizations to register "role objects" in place of personal details." [2]<br><br>It sounds a little odd that they would think the whois data is private. <br>I wonder if they have fake whois data on their domains.<br><br>[1]: <a href="http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/whois_search2/using-whois">http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/whois_search2/using-whois</a><br>[2]: <a href="http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/privacy">http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/privacy</a> [Section 2.1]<br><br><br>On 20/07/2010 1:58 PM, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hey Noggers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">this is probably just another silly question, but I am having a <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">dispute with someone over them claiming that whois information is <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">private information about their company and thus I can't post it anywhere I want.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ie, post the whois with a comment on a public domain / forum.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I claim that this is indeed public information and can be used by anyone?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">However I thought before I make a total idiot out of myself I would <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ask you just incase I am wrong and the details are infact "Confidential"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">*<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Karl Kloppenborg*<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>