<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Andrew,<div><br></div><div>The filter is not changing the status of any content. What's illegal is still illegal, what's legal is still legal. If you're doing something illegal then you goto Jail.</div><div><br></div><div>The issue is that the filter will demonstrate that the government is interested in an unworkable bandaid and not helping the AFP etc stop and remove Child Porn. They just want to make it a little harder to get to. (ie. because it's in a filter they'll be admitting they KNOW where it is, but also admitting they've not taken the effort to remove it).</div><div><br></div><div>MMC<br><div><br><div><div>On 08/07/2010, at 12:55 PM, Andrew Oskam wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<font size="-1"><font face="Verdana">The RC laws in Australia, so far
as I am aware, only dictate that you cannot sell or place the product
on exhibition within Australia. It's not illegal to own said material.<br>
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And this is where I am confused - There is no indication as to where
exactly a person I breaking the law.<br>
<br>
Conroy has already said that I will not be breaking the law if I bypass
the filter - I can only assume that I would be breaking the law by
viewing the content. But there is no real indication as to whether or
not it is illegal to view.<br>
<br>
As MMC said earlier, "Content that is illegal to view/own/transmit (eg.
Child Porn)." obviously this is how things currently are - however if
the filter is deeming everything as RC than I now am legally able to
view/own/transmit Child Porn.<br>
<br>
I hope I am making sense :)<br>
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<td><p class="MsoAutoSig"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Andrew
Oskam<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">E <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:percy@th3interw3bs.net">percy@th3interw3bs.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 8/07/10 1:07 PM, ComKal Networks wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Andrew,
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<pre wrap="">Let's say that I access a blacklisted website by bypassing the filter by
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I would expect you would face the same consequences as you
would being in posession of RC material in the form of banned
goods (such as a book), if you get caught with goods.
That is after all what its suppost to be about.
Cheers
Ian Manners
ComKal Networks Australia
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