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size=2 face=Arial>Interesting read:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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href="http://www.smartcompany.com.au/information-technology/20100707-ben-ashton.html">http://www.smartcompany.com.au/information-technology/20100707-ben-ashton.html</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Whilst the organisation is peddling their own products and
services, they make an interesting point regarding the filter and a "superior"
alternative to the Govt. proposed internet filter.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=869210803-08072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Credit: SmartCompany.com.au</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew
Oskam<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 July 2010 1:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship
program to go ahead - Gillard supports a the great firewall<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT size=-1><FONT face=Verdana>I think I already know the answer
and the response that will be received..but I'll say it anyways.<BR><BR>Let's
say that I access a blacklisted website by bypassing the filter by whatever
means.<BR><BR>As the filter is supposed to be my safeguard against this content
- Does this mean that if the filter, in one way or another, is ineffective in
protecting me that I am not capable or being held criminally
accountable?<BR><BR>Further to this, If I choose to bypass the filter (which
Conroy has indicated will not be considered an illegal activity) am I still free
from being held criminally accountable?<BR><BR>I guess what I am trying to say
is, Who is meant to be held accountable for viewing such content? How is the
filter really meant to be considered a safeguard if they are not intending to
police the full extend of its effectiveness.<BR><BR>As a citizen, I would think
that if this holy grail of filters is meant to protect me - why is the
government not prohibiting me from bypassing it?<BR><BR>And if I am caught
viewing such content and pulled to the side my the AFP - Then I would say to
them that I assumed that I would be free to view the content because they did
not specifically say that I couldn't bypass the system.<BR><BR>To me (I'm going
to use an analogy here), It seems as though the government is
saying:<BR><BR>"Well good sir, I don't want you to eat this cookie - but if you
decide to ignore me and break the padlock I won't say anything :)"<BR><BR>Food
for thought?<BR></FONT></FONT>
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<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><BR><BR></DIV></DIV><BR>On 8/07/10 11:28 AM, Jacob
Gardiner wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:11074494-50DC-435D-B31C-6F98B65EA34B@squiz.com.au
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that this blacklist of websites, will not be kept secret.
I would assume that support staff and network operators at ISP's would have some sort of access to this list, which I have no doubt will be constantly leaked and updated.
Doesn't the govt. realise that this will actually be counter-productive to their argument? Instead of blocking websites, they'll in turn be publicly giving the rest of the world (and everybody who can get around the filter) an all you can eat buffet of websites containing child porn and restricted content.
This will without a doubt, cause a sudden increase in this type of material being distributed in the exact same way it is now - Online.
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