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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Sounds like a great way to ostracize and label ourselves as fundamentalist crackpots. Quite ironic, really.<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Daniel Hood<BR>
Sent: Thu 7/8/2010 12:08 PM<BR>
To: Kai<BR>
Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<BR>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillardsupports a the great firewall<BR>
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Can we all crash a public speaking engagement for Conroy and voice our<BR>
opinions?<BR>
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kai <vk6ksj@westnet.com.au> wrote:<BR>
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> "...Conroy been saying that the industry supports him all the way"?<BR>
> When? he's lying, no, sorry, politically correct "misinforming" his<BR>
> colleagues and they haven't figured out that he's wrong? do they have any<BR>
> ear at all on all the industry unhappiness with his idea?<BR>
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> ----- Original Message -----<BR>
> From: "Phillip Grasso" <phillip.grasso@gmail.com><BR>
> To: "Shain Singh" <shain.singh@gmail.com><BR>
> Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<BR>
> Sent: Thursday, 8 July, 2010 10:52:28 AM GMT +09:30 Darwin<BR>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillard<BR>
> supports a the great firewall<BR>
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> folks, what is the point of striking when in most regard the telco's/isp's<BR>
> are not in support of filter. That only serves to hurt an ally.<BR>
><BR>
> The focus should be on<BR>
> 1). Educating the public,<BR>
> 2). driving political change through education / awareness.<BR>
><BR>
> Anything that has impact to users and business should be avoided at all<BR>
> costs.<BR>
><BR>
> Yes. I have contacted my MP and advised him of this situation, he as others<BR>
> have pointed out unaware of the issues, he just thought that it was to<BR>
> protect the children, but explained passed the surface a tiny bit, he<BR>
> understood the issues better. So it takes advocacy to prompt the right<BR>
> questions. Here's the list<BR>
> <A HREF="http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mi-elctr.asp">http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mi-elctr.asp</A><BR>
><BR>
> Also, something insightful with the discussion with my MP is that Conroy<BR>
> been saying that the industry supports him all the way. DO WE REALLY?<BR>
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> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Shain Singh < shain.singh@gmail.com ><BR>
> wrote:<BR>
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> On 8 July 2010 10:53, Noel Butler < noel.butler@ausics.net > wrote:<BR>
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> But the last thing anyone should do, is tell their users to go read site<BR>
> blah, foo, or bar.<BR>
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> Agreed.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
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> They would tend to listen more if their SP sent them a message about what<BR>
> may happen, and suggesting if they don't want to be treated like a 5yo, or<BR>
> be placed in the same class as any other communist dictatorship country,<BR>
> that they, tax paying, voting Australians, could start by directly<BR>
> contacting their Fed MP and telling them so, and, that they will not be<BR>
> accepting the usual templated response rhetoric.<BR>
><BR>
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> Makes for an awesome phishing scam don't ya think? Given the audience it<BR>
> would be fairly successful too I'd imagine.<BR>
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><BR>
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> Shaineel Singh<BR>
> e: shain.singh@gmail.com<BR>
> p: +61 422 921 951<BR>
><BR>
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> Camus<BR>
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