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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry, this is a better url for the CEPU;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://cepuconnects.org/index.cfm">http://cepuconnects.org/index.cfm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Hooper<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 July 2010 8:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillard supports a the great firewall<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://cepu.net.au/">http://cepu.net.au/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Maybe all we need to join a union and get the union to handle the organisation of a nationwide strike, and maybe not the above union.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Dan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>** Has never been a fan of unions but they do have their place, and if you really want make to a splash a nationwide telco/ISP worker strike is probably the only way the rest of the public is going to sit down and listen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dmitri Kalintsev<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 July 2010 8:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillard supports a the great firewall<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>What about this <a href="http://nocleanfeed.com">http://nocleanfeed.com</a> ? Who is behind this initiative?<br><br>-- D<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Noel Butler <<a href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 23:44 +1000, Skeeve Stevens wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>No pain no gain though.... and with enough notice... I am sure that most customers would not have an issue... especially if many ISP’s did it.<br><br> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>What about a nicely written, short, to the point (no one wants to waste time reading pages of stuff) email to all customers, pointing out<br>what the govt wants to do, and why it is wrong and will not work (and the point that any 10yo kid could get around it, let alone teenagers), and it's likely affect upon their service and Internet experience, and the biggy, that it also sends a false sense of security to parents of young kids, filters innocent pages (anyone forgotten about that dentist...) and so on.<br><br>There are enough key players of some small to moderately sized SP's on this list in a position to do something like this, but as Skeeve points out, that most are just chest beaters (there are some exceptions - Hi Mark :-> )<br><br><br><br><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The contents of this email are intended only for the use of the addressee. 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