its been pretty clear what Google position all along. Why else do you think Conroy has it in for Google. <div><br></div><div>The problem is that not enough 'outcry' from the industry is there, so Conroy is free to say he's got the support of the industry, with a possibly few big players in his back pocket due to NBN, he can say things such as 'industry consultation/support' etc.<div>
<br></div><div>How many Telco/ISP are there in Australia, and how many would decree publicly they do not support filtering/censorship?</div><div><br><div>If we get a big enough list, that will immediately be media worthy, so every time it is mentioned in the press, we have a hard stat on how many of the ISP/Telcos actually support this scheme. Yes Conroy will dismiss it, but its yet another salvo. <insert reputable organisation to represent us>.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Until we get an industry group together, I'm happy to collate that information, so if your organisation is willing to join the list (at the moment, its just a list opposing the filter). Please send me a private message so I can gather the details.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Skeeve@eintellego.net">Skeeve@eintellego.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Phillip... </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We know Google is against filtering... but are they willing to
come out if heavy support and promotion of this fight ? They do have the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">NOC, NOC, who's there?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phillip Grasso<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Pierotti<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] What are we , collectively, doing about the
impending mandatatory censorship scheme?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the first thing we need to do is organise ourselves,
either working with existing efforts (preference) or forming our own small
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<p class="MsoNormal">To this end, i'm thinking about hosting a gathering next
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<p class="MsoNormal">If your keen, please contact me off-list.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Phil Pierotti <<a href="mailto:phil.pierotti@platformnetworks.net" target="_blank">phil.pierotti@platformnetworks.net</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So the obvious question(s) not being asked include:<br>
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(1) Will there be a piece/feature/segment in The Program for AusNOG04 regarding
-> The Impending Censorship Program and What Can/Are/Will We , As An
Industry, Do About It?<br>
(2) Will many-and-various media-presences be requested to record the
proceedings (and, ideally, report on such)<br>
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And yes, (1) is obviously and clearly a Network Operations issue.<br>
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If we do or at least *achieve* nothing, then it will have significant
operational consequences amounting to non-trivial financial impact.<br>
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Phil P</p>
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