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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Hi All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Strictly speaking you don't actually need to have a "www." at
the beginning of your host/web name.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>You will, however, most likely be penalised by search engines
for duplicate content if your website runs with </FONT><A
href="http://www.blah.com.au"><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>www.blah.com.au</FONT></A><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>and blah.com.au.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>For load balancing you don't need to have a www, www2,
whatever.blah.com.au as the load balancer typically assumes the role of your
webserver(s) answering requests from the public and passing them transparently
to the appropriate web server sitting behind - ie: you would call the load
balancer <A href="http://www.blah.com.au">www.blah.com.au</A>. It could still
hand off to www2 and www3 .blah.com.au behind the scenes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>We use the "www" or "www2" or "something" .blah.com.au to
indicate the public facing host name.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Most people just like to see / expect to see "www." when
visiting websites and that's probably why you see the majority of sites with
www, however it's not mandatory as its just a name.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>David - Yes, correct OPsView is Nagios/Cacti with a GUI, but
it is very good. You can still configure manually if you have to, but the GUI is
reasonably clever and good for helpdesk staff to monitoring up and running
without deep knowledge of Nagios setup/compiling/etc. One of the biggest issues
we had with Nagios (on it's own) was configuration files and typos/syntax. It
would stop everything from working and make life difficult for helpdesk bods who
were not sure on syntax</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=638023300-05072010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Cheers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew
Oskam<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 5 July 2010 10:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AusNOG] Incorrect DNS
setup<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT size=-1><FONT face=Verdana>I believe, and don't quote me on
this, that it's simply due to missing or incorrect A records.<BR><BR>If I am
correct, I think it has something to do with load balancing. Can't say for
sure.<BR><BR>As for where www originated from? all I can say is that i think it
was all just to make things easier...technically I don't think www is really a
requirement as such but it makes it easy to quote people a website..instead of
people having to guess whether its a website or a hostname for a
mailserver.<BR></FONT></FONT>
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<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><BR><BR></DIV></DIV><BR>On 5/07/10 10:16 AM, Karl
Kloppenborg wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:4A9013B5-4F1A-47F8-8396-543883A68609@karltec.net
type="cite">Hey Noggers,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Firstly I would like to apologise for going a-wall postal on you all
yesterday... and a big thanks to those who off list posted me to discuss last
mile setups and what not, and generally giving me a helping knowledgeable hand
:)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>So heres my post for today:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Very frequently I trawl around and go to peoples websites (especially
when I see an email on ausnog with a domain I haven't been to attached to it
;P ) </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I have done this again this morning and it got me thinking, how come a
lot of people have these two cases:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>A) I navigate to <A href="http://blah.com.au"
moz-do-not-send="true">blah.com.au</A> and is goes "can't connect to this
server" I append www. to the domain (it ends up being <A
href="http://www.blah.com.au" moz-do-not-send="true">www.blah.com.au</A>) and
I get their website.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>or </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>B)The reverse of this, I navigate to <A href="http://www.blah.com.au"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.blah.com.au</A> and it says "Can't connect to
server", but I go to <A href="http://blah.com.au"
moz-do-not-send="true">blah.com.au</A> and it is all cool.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>What I am wondering is:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>A) Why do people leave have these cases?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>B) Where did the use of appending www. to the front of things originate
from?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>C) also I see sometimes www1. or www2. on some websites, can someone
explain these to me?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks guys,</DIV>
<DIV>Hope your all having a nice monday morning.</DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV><B><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>Cheers!<BR
class=Apple-interchange-newline>Karl Kloppenborg</B></DIV>
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