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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Some of us have been idling away on an IRC channel for a few weeks now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Provides a more general chat non archived environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>#ausnog – irc.freenode.net <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Oskam<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 5 July 2010 12:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Junior techs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I still in support of a forum medium as the community portal and having the ausnog mail list remain specifically for Network Operation matters.<br><br>The forums are good place to reference something you say donkeys months back and wanted to reference it without having to return folders upon folders of emails and then trying to decipher and sort the insignificant emails.<br><br>Forums also offer some kind of moderation - should it be needed.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=650 style='width:487.5pt'><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoAutoSig><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Andrew Oskam</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoAutoSig><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>E <a href="mailto:percy@th3interw3bs.net">percy@th3interw3bs.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoAutoSig><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>NOTICE:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoAutoSig><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>These comments are my own personal opinions only and do not necessarily reflect the positions or opinions of my employer or their affiliates. All comments are based upon my current knowledge and my own personal experiences. You should conduct independent tests to verify the validity of any statements made in this email before basing any decisions upon those statements. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br>On 5/07/10 1:43 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>It has been suggested we have a ausnog-chat list, but apparently some are against it.... I'd prefer that.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Or leave this as the chat list and setup 'ausnog-ops' list?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net">skeeve@eintellego.net</a> / <a href="http://www.eintellego.net">www.eintellego.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / <a href="skype://skeeve">skype://skeeve</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve">www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> ; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NOC, NOC, who's there?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [<a href="mailto:ausnog">mailto:ausnog</a>-<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:bounces@lists.ausnog.net">bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bruce Morgan<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Monday, 5 July 2010 1:11 PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: Peter Childs; Karl Kloppenborg<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Junior techs<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Is AUSNOG relevent for network operators anymore? The SN ratio is<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>extremely<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>low.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Facebook would be more appropriate for current posts. Why not form a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>group<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and post there and leave AUSNOG for relevant Network Operational<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>matters?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Regards<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Bruce<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On 5/07/10 10:57 AM, "Peter Childs" <a href="mailto:PChilds@internode.com.au"><PChilds@internode.com.au></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>A 1 RU foldable robot would be sweet for smart hands.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Imagine being able to fold your own robot out of your rack to do a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>bit of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>remote patching.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I don't have a girlfriend.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On 05/07/2010, at 12:20 PM, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Yes.... that is me.... I was younger then....<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>No Laughing... yes I loved learning, so I had a rack in my room :P<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Just so you know I DO HAVE A GIRLFRIEND!<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Cheers!<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Karl Kloppenborg<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></div></div><p><hr /></p><p /><p /><p /><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="FONT-FAMILY: " lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">The contents of this email are intended only for the use of the addressee. 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