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As opposed to fibre, wireless and satellite which never have problems...<br>
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From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au"><mmc@internode.com.au></a><br>
Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2010 4:58:24 PM<br>
To: Karl Kloppenborg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:karl@karltec.net"><karl@karltec.net></a><br>
CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">"ausnog@ausnog.net"</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net"><ausnog@ausnog.net></a><br>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Anyone else experiencing high latency, low
speeds through internode?
<blockquote
cite="mid:E127B3B0-51A6-4E02-B90D-0AD324B2AE8E@internode.com.au"
type="cite">Not really. If it's a line fault then that's just one of
the issues we've got with using the current Copper network.
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<div>MMC</div>
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<div>On 04/07/2010, at 4:26 PM, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:</div>
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<div>Just thought I would like to see what your thoughts were,</div>
<div>Seems a bit strange to just suddenly "Do" this.<br>
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Karl Kloppenborg</b></div>
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<div>On 04/07/2010, at 16:52, Scott Howard wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">1300 788 233<br>
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Internode's customer support is excellent, and (with no offense to
MMC!) far better than you're going to get here...<br>
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Scott.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Karl
Kloppenborg <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:karl@karltec.net">karl@karltec.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="">Yeah,
<div>Rebooted three - four times.</div>
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<div>Checked all computers on the network (two of them) turned
off the other one, plus checked my macbook for transfers happening in
the background, nothing out of the normal.</div>
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<div>I have also checked the DHCP table for any people who
might have hacked and jumping my wifi (Tin foil hats :D )</div>
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<div>Nothing out of the ordinary...</div>
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<div>Very strange,</div>
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<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">DSL Status:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="121">Connected</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">DSL Modulation Mode:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">MultiMode</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">DSL Path Mode:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">Interleaved</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">Downstream Rate:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">9888 kbps</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">Upstream Rate:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">128 kbps</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">Downstream Margin:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">9 db</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">Upstream Margin:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">11 db</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">Downstream Line
Attenuation:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">25 db</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">Upstream Line Attenuation:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">7.5 db</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">Downstream Transmit Power:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">10 db</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="160">Upstream Transmit Power:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">19 db</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<hr> PVC Connection
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">Encapsulation:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="140">RFC 2516 PPPoE</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">Multiplexing:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">LLC</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">Qos:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">UBR</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">Pcr Rate:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">Scr Rate:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">Autodetect:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">Enable</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">VPI:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">8</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">VCI:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">35</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">Enable:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">Yes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap="nowrap" width="162">PVC Status:</td>
<td nowrap="nowrap">Up</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
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Karl Kloppenborg</b></div>
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<div>On 04/07/2010, at 16:43, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:</div>
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<div>I'd suggest checking if you're transferring a lot of
stuff and/or just try rebooting your ADSL modem/router.</div>
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<div>MMC</div>
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<div>On 04/07/2010, at 4:10 PM, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:</div>
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<div>You are right, how very noob of me to :P</div>
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<div>karl:~ karl$ traceroute <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com/" target="_blank">google.com</a></div>
<div>traceroute to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com/" target="_blank">google.com</a>
(66.102.11.104), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets</div>
<div> 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 4.504 ms 1.418 ms
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<div> 2 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lns20.syd7.internode.on.net/" target="_blank">lns20.syd7.internode.on.net</a>
(150.101.199.219) 981.656 ms 716.172 ms 818.604 ms</div>
<div> 3 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://te3-3.cor2.syd7.internode.on.net/" target="_blank">te3-3.cor2.syd7.internode.on.net</a>
(150.101.195.13) 743.925 ms 688.767 ms 136.491 ms</div>
<div> 4 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gi6-0-0-145.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net/" target="_blank">gi6-0-0-145.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net</a>
(150.101.195.245) 142.577 ms 232.041 ms 921.565 ms</div>
<div> 5 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gw.google.com/" target="_blank">gw.google.com</a>
(150.101.225.34) 1126.228 ms 920.613 ms 819.387 ms</div>
<div> 6 66.249.95.232 (66.249.95.232) 409.420 ms 408.016
ms 718.100 ms</div>
<div> 7 64.233.174.242 (64.233.174.242) 716.887 ms
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<div> 8 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://syd01s01-in-f104.1e100.net/" target="_blank">syd01s01-in-f104.1e100.net</a>
(66.102.11.104) 627.500 ms 907.453 ms 432.102 ms</div>
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<div>On 04/07/2010, at 16:38, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:</div>
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<div style="">Karl,
<div>I have no idea where you are. If you're having an
issue then at least a traceroute would be good as we terminate DSL in
13 sites in Australia, so even narrowing that down, especially with 9
IXes we peer at in Australia plus significant private peering, it's a
bit tricky.</div>
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<div>On 04/07/2010, at 3:55 PM, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:</div>
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<div style="">Sorry didn't mean to use it as a support
channel, was more asking if it is indeed related to the PIPE post.
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<div>On 04/07/2010, at 16:22, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:</div>
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<div>Karl,</div>
<div>Thanks for all the detail,</div>
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I suggest you contact <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://secure.internode.on.net/contact/online/#support"
target="_blank">https://secure.internode.on.net/contact/online/#support</a>
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<div>On 04/07/2010, at 3:34 PM, Karl Kloppenborg
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<div style="">Noggers,
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<div>Seems I am getting really poor speeds on
Internode residential plus some pretty big latency issues for google</div>
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<div>karl:~ karl$ ping <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com/" target="_blank">google.com</a></div>
<div>PING <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com/" target="_blank">google.com</a>
(66.102.11.104): 56 data bytes</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://66.102.11.104/" target="_blank">66.102.11.104</a>:
icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=297.618 ms</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://66.102.11.104/" target="_blank">66.102.11.104</a>:
icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=136.979 ms</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://66.102.11.104/" target="_blank">66.102.11.104</a>:
icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=182.588 ms</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://66.102.11.104/" target="_blank">66.102.11.104</a>:
icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=240.112 ms</div>
<div>^C</div>
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<div>I might just be reiterating over the PIPE
issue though?</div>
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Cheers!<br>
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