<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On 24/06/2010, at 4:58 PM, Zane Jarvis wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Disconnect? I hope not, but a wall garden concept is a great idea. I<br>understand it will make more work and cost more for the ISPs. But the infected<br>hosts do have a negative impact on your network don't they?</span></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Not really.</div><div><br></div><div>These are just regular users with a reasonably small outbound bandwidth.</div><div><br></div><div>Fundamentally, it should not be the responsibility of the ISP to go concerning</div><div>themselves with a customer's traffic.</div><div><br></div><div>So what if user's computers are infected? Individual's need to be responsible</div><div>for that, and ISP's need to not care.</div><div><br></div><div>The Internet has operated perfectly fine for decades without such controls in place.</div><div><br></div><div>It'd be a real pain in the ass for, say, your state's water supplier if the government </div><div>legislated for all houses to have energy efficient shower heads, and then made </div><div>it <i>their</i> problem to police their mandatory use.</div><div><br></div><div>In the rare cases where an ISP's infrastructure is a target of their own customer's </div><div>poorly configured/secured network, then that can be dealt with on a case by </div><div>case basis, and for sure, it's in their interests to help the customer resolve </div><div>the issue.</div><div><br></div><div>Put it this way - do you <i>really</i> want to subsidise the cleansing of other people's</div><div>networks?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>-- <br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Tom Wright<br>Internode Network Operations<br>P: +61 8 8228 2999<br>W: <a href="http://www.internode.on.net/">http://www.internode.on.net</a></div></div></span></span>
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