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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HEAR HEAR Mark.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>People should stop screwing around about IPv6 and start doing
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Find someone, ANYONE to help you if you don’t have the
skills in-house.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Unfortunately, while there is a lot of IPv6 skills in Australia,
most of it is in-house with few independent organisations willing to put their
hands in other peoples networks to help them.  At the moment we are one of
the few implementers (or the only one?), though I know IPv6Now are doing a lot
of training and consulting.... if there are any others out there, I would love
to know... as we have significant about of IPv6 stuff going on, not just in
Australia, but the region.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The big issue about integration of IPv6 if you have the get
involved deep in peoples networks, so you can’t be competing with them...
so you need to be independent.  If there are any independents out there
who “Really know” what they are doing, let me know and we may have
some referral business.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Newton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 22 June 2010 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin Karp<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] IPv4 Exhaustion date changed to December.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On 22/06/2010, at 2:00 PM, Kevin Karp wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<div><pre>That's a lot of brokers being commissioned (one by your very own firm) in the last 3 years - well and truly after 2003.<o:p></o:p></pre></div>

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<p class=MsoNormal>But that's not my point.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Consider this mailing list's audience.  Should
operational staff at Australia's<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>ISPs still be dicking around with tunnels?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I was playing with tunnel brokers in 2003.  Pretty sure
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<p class=MsoNormal>around here were too.  But that ship has sailed now,
and we're supposed<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>to be getting on with native/dual-stack implementation.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps we'd be getting somewhere if people on this list
worried less<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>about the IPv4 exhaustion date and more about their IPv6
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<p class=MsoNormal>dates...<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>  - mark<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:"'Andale Mono'","serif";color:black'>Mark Newton    
                     
    Email:  <a href="mailto:newton@internode.com.au">newton@internode.com.au</a>
(W)</span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:"'Andale Mono'","serif";color:black'>Network Engineer    
                   
 Email:  <a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>
 (H)</span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:"'Andale Mono'","serif";color:black'>Internode Pty Ltd  
                     
Desk:   +61-8-82282999</span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"'Andale Mono'","serif";color:black'>"Network Man" -
Anagram of "Mark Newton"  Mobile: +61-416-202-223</span></span><span
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