<html><head><base href="x-msg://149/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>It's all well and good that they're pulling these recommendations out of this air, but have they actually consulted with real ISPs and industry to see whether all these ideas are actually viable?</div><div><br></div><div>Is it even technically possible for an ISP to ascertain the security of a users machine without having to install client-end software?</div><div><br></div><div>At the end of the day, I'm happy with OSX security and a hardware firewall.</div><div><br><div><div>On 22/06/2010, at 2:45 PM, Sean K. Finn wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/secure-your-pc-or-lose-the-net-20100622-yuf5.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/secure-your-pc-or-lose-the-net-20100622-yuf5.html</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 9.6pt; line-height: 11.55pt; vertical-align: baseline; "><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: inherit, serif; color: black; ">Australians would be unable to access the internet without having anti-virus and firewall programs installed and a virus-free machine under a new plan put forward by a year-long parliamentary cyber-crime inquiry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 9.6pt; line-height: 11.55pt; vertical-align: baseline; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; "><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: inherit, serif; color: black; ">A prominent cyber-security consultant, Alastair MacGibbon, who is a former director of the AFP's Australian High Tech Crime Centre and eBay's former security chief, has called for the proposal to be taken a step further<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>by forcing ISPs to actively monitor the security of users' machines and block them from connecting if their browser, security and operating system software is not up to standards.<o:p></o:p></b></span></p><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">-Sigh-<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">Great, now we’re the babysitters for the nanny states, too.<o:p></o:p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>