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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pretty much the same way as most ideas to bypass the filtering
system:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Servers outside .au that you can proxy off – different to
port 80 <b>(which I already use to get to US tv shows that stop .au addresses
watching them)<o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Servers outside .au that you can VPN to then surf – all encrypted
<b>(which millions of business people already use day-to-day)<o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
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mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Example:
In China Facebook/Twitter is banned, but worked fine for me on my Blackberry
happily as it uses an encrypted tunnel back to my BES server to surf the net
from my office connection in Sydney.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Use the many tools that will no doubt appear to proxy/VPN off
servers outside .au ‘as a service’ that will most likely use all
manner of secure connections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The wanting to record web traffic would essentially be very
similar to the filtering project, except it would be more ‘IDS’
than ‘IPS’ where the filtering ‘prevents’, but the recording
‘detects’ (and records).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Unless I am missing something here?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>phil colbourn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 12 June 2010 9:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Govt wants ISPs to record user history<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Skeeve Stevens <<a
href="mailto:Skeeve@eintellego.net">Skeeve@eintellego.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Sorry, I haven’t read the entire
thread in case this has been commented on already.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>But isn’t this just like the
filtering situation – can’t most people still bypass this sort of
thing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>How would most people be able to bypass this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Going over the ZDNet article again, it looks like they want
email stored as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Now the Australian Privacy Foundation is very vocal about
the Google incident but they are currently silent on this one.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Phil<br>
<br>
<a href="http://philatwarrimoo.blogspot.com">http://philatwarrimoo.blogspot.com</a><br>
<a href="http://code.google.com/p/snmp2xml">http://code.google.com/p/snmp2xml</a><br>
<br>
"Someone has solved it and uploaded it for free."<br>
<br>
"If I have nothing to hide, you have no reason to look."<br>
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
magic." Arthur C. Clarke - Who does magic today?<o:p></o:p></p>
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