<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I am a P plater, in NSW but never had heard of this "curfew" ?<div><br></div><div>Can you explain it?</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6">P</font> 02 8014 4253<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "> EXT:104</span></b></span> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-weight: bold; "> | <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">M </span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(21, 33, 246); font-weight: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">0438475892 <b>|</b> <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6">www</font>.karltec.net</span></b></span></span></b></span></span></span></b></div></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(5, 97, 0); 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</font></span></i></font></div></span></i></font></div></span></span></i></font></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><br><div><div>On 01/06/2010, at 12:35, Anthony Spruce wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div><font face="Calibri">There currently is one in NSW here right now but only if
you're on your P-Plates...</font></div>
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<div><font face="Calibri">It's the dumbest thing I have ever seen.</font></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="karl@karltec.net" href="mailto:karl@karltec.net">Karl Kloppenborg</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:32 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Brumby's proposed Under 25 Driving
Curfew</div></div></div>
<div><br></div>Hey Noggers,
<div><br></div>
<div>Bit of a debate here, so Brumby has proposed to have an under 25 driving
curfew,</div>
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<div>but hang on, you and me alike we depend on this mode of transport at the
most late or early of hours, absolutely around the clock?</div>
<div>Last time I checked my servers didn't ask me if I would be busy or able to
attend before they go down?!?!</div>
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<div>I am under 25, what happens when I tell my work, sorry as your sys admin
after 11PM I can't fix anything that goes down or... oh sh1t!!! Karl we need you
at the DC right away... sorry guys I can't because its past my "curfew"..</div>
<div>What would my works response be? hrrm...</div>
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<div>What are your thoughts on this matter?</div>
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<div>P.s. regardless of the likability of it going ahead or not, this is to
discuss it as IF it was going ahead :)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><a href="http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/young-driver-night-ban-to-reduce-victorias-road-toll/story-e6frf7jo-1225873262027">http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/young-driver-night-ban-to-reduce-victorias-road-toll/story-e6frf7jo-1225873262027</a></div>
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<div>Cheers Noggers :)</div>
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