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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That is the thing... do you realise how many ISP’s are
just sitting there doing nothing right now?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Every conversation I am having with ISP’s ends up sounding
doomsday-like because:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>v4 run-out is happening 12-24 months from now<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You need 3-6 months to get engineering staff up to speed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You need another 3 or more to get sales/management up to speed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You need to be kicking your transit suppliers, hardware vendors
and so on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You need to figure out how to deal with the fact that few
customer xDSL CPE’s are going to work and who is going to pay for it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You need to be planning for the serious architectural changes to
your network<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>IPv6 dual-stack
transit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>IPv6
your core<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>IPv6
your OSS (including all the investigation/upgrading this will take)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>IPv6
to you customers – colo, ethernet, cloud, hosting for the most part is
easy – DSL isn’t as easy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You
need to buy/build/integrate CGN/LSN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This
will need 6-9 months effort<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You need to plan how to pay for it – NOW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Decide that if you want to keep your job (if you aren’t
the owner – then it is your business you will lose) if you don’t start
making SOME moves – even if it is just understanding and planning what
you should be doing... talking to someone – anyone who can help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If ISPs don’t do the above... and start in the next 3
months, then things are going to get very bad for you if you are an ISP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Few people can deny most of the above. If you do, you are
not an ISP or living in a fantasy world.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Even at CeBIT, because of what we do, a LOT of people we were
talking to were ISPs – and nearly all of them haven’t even
thought about starting IPv6 yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You don’t think they need articles like this? They need
anything that will give them a wake-up call... because few ISPs actually go to
APNIC, IPv6 Summit, AusNOG, etc and here the message that is being talked
about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And these conversations are working. Just from CeBIT last
week I have a dozen leads from ISPs around the country wanting us to look at
their infrastructure via our ‘IPv6 Infrastructure Readiness Report’
which we are presently doing all over the APAC region for ISPs, businesses and
governments who are slowly waking up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My point still is... doomsday themed articles can only help...
they aren’t going to make people run and hide as that is going to accomplish
exactly what the articles are talking about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dmitri Kalintsev<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 31 May 2010 6:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 Article on CNN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Skeeve,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Agree about the ISPs. I mentioned enterprises because I was
(probably naively) thinking that them ISPs don't need CNN articles to get
things moving.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-- Dmitri<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Skeeve Stevens <<a
href="mailto:Skeeve@eintellego.net">Skeeve@eintellego.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I am not talking about scaring people
stiff... I am suggesting more articles detailing just might happen
if they don’t start doing something now.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It isn’t too late today... a few
months won’t be too late.... one year... yes... problems.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I am not saying ipv4 will be
disappearing in a puff of smoke... but this is AusNOG... mostly supposedly to
have ISPs and carriers... those who really need to be thinking about IPv6
today... not in 6 months time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking
Specialists</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net"
target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a> / <a href="http://www.eintellego.net"
target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'><a
href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a>
; <a href="http://facebook.com/eintellego" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellego</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's there?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dmitri Kalintsev<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 30 May 2010 6:20 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 Article on CNN<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Skeeve,<o:p></o:p></p>
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feel that a more effective tactic in getting enterprises over the line is not
to scare them stiff but to help them with assessing the implications for their
particular business.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When
people are scared with no obvious way to escape, a reaction is often that of
denial. On other hand if they are shown a way to *correctly and effectively*
assess the danger *they are in* (which will vary widely, depending on the
nature of a particular business - IPv4 isn't exactly going to disappear in a
puff of a smoke at the hell's bell's toll), then you will effectively help them
to put together a business case to do the necessary movements.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It
is all about the money, by the end of the day.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Dmitri<o:p></o:p></p>
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Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Skeeve Stevens <<a
href="mailto:Skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">Skeeve@eintellego.net</a>>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kevin,<br>
<br>
Last week on our stand at CeBIT I spent a lot of time talking to many people
about what we do...and IPv6 came up a lot.<br>
<br>
The most frequent comments about IPv6 were:<br>
<br>
- What is it?<br>
- Is there really a need to look at it yet?<br>
- They didn't have any customers asking for it<br>
- We will be looking at it soon<br>
- Not many providers offer it<br>
- Telstra doesn't offer it - which means it isn't prime-time yet<br>
<br>
But the biggest comment was:<br>
<br>
- I know what it is, but I haven't heard much about it in the IT media, so we
assume it isn't that important yet.<br>
<br>
Which is why I now have a stronger opinion that ANY article talking about IPv6
- informational, hype, doomsday-like - are good things. And the more
articles, the more 'alarmist' in nature - the better.<br>
<br>
Kevin, you'd rather show people the rewards and profits? What profits?
Apart from integration and selling people new hardware, there are no real
profits in just 'having IPv6'. Rewards? The only reward is being in
business in a couple of years time - the most important of all rewards - but
you can't sell that.<br>
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APNIC, ISOC-AU, IPv6NOW (in this region) and other organisations have taken
this softly softly approach for far too long and where is IPv6 adoption at? It
is terrible considering how close we are to the ipv4 run-out.<br>
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This technology is critical to the Telco/carrier/isp/etc world continuing to
operate... those who are responsible to handing out these recourses to the end
users have, for the most part minus a few notables (such as Internode, Pipe),
have made very little progress in deploying or making this technology widely
available to the public/their customers.<br>
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Looking into my crystal ball I do see a time a year or so from now where
Telstra/Optus/iiNet and Internode will most likely be telling all their
customers and the general public about IPv6... at least I hope so. But I
am wondering that if that will be soon enough considering the amount of
resources required to train all the support staff in the technology.<br>
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The only ISP that I know of - Internode - who is doing v6 prime-time, I assume
has also internally trained a lot of their support staff. Would
Mark/Matthew or someone from Internode let us know where the company is with
IPv6 knowledge amongst its front-line staff? (for curiosity and example
purposes).<br>
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Internode, 'wherever they are' would have to be at the cutting edge of v6
awareness.... I hope. But my worry is that the other BIG ISPs in this country -
Telstra, Optus, TPG, iiNET/Netspace, Exetel, Adam and others... how long will
it take to get all their staff up to speed.... sales, support (including
offshore), netops and so on.... and will it be done in time?<br>
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The big thing I hear from ISPs and alike at conferences is that 'no one is
asking for it'. Well, if articles that hype the issue of IPv6 up, bring
awareness and hopefully cause them to start asking their ISPs, Integrators,
local computer stores, and so on... great.... because all the soft talking so
far has done very little to help to cause.<br>
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The time for softly softly is over. You (larger industry plural) have had your
chance.<br>
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...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></p>
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Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director<br>
eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<br>
<a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a>
/ <a href="http://www.eintellego.net" target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a><br>
Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<br>
Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve<br>
<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a>
; <a href="http://facebook.com/eintellego" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellego</a><br>
--<br>
NOC, NOC, who's there?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Sent: Sunday, 30 May 2010 12:24 PM<br>
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Subject: [AusNOG] IPv6 Article on CNN<br>
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> Hi Skeeve<br>
><br>
> >Problem is... doomsday articles are sometimes the only way to<br>
> motivate<br>
> people.<br>
><br>
> Really?<br>
> Surely self-interest is a far greater motivator. I don't think that you<br>
> can use self-preservation as a motivator in this instance (see below).<br>
> You have to show the rewards that are available that are otherwise<br>
> unachievable with the current regime.<br>
><br>
> >I believe the impact of Y2K was minimalised due to peoples preparation<br>
> mostly due to the many<br>
> > doomsday hype articles.<br>
><br>
> The accompanying exaggeration (and subsequent self-enrichment) is part<br>
> of the reason why many<br>
> non-IT industry insiders are justifiably sceptical of doomsday messages<br>
> from the IT industry.<br>
><br>
> And anyway the doomsday message is just not true.<br>
><br>
> > People are going to need something to move them to IPv6...<br>
> > and I really don't care how it happens. Scare the crap
out of them<br>
> I say!<br>
><br>
> I'd rather show people the rewards and the profits that are available.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
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> Kevin<br>
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> --<o:p></o:p></p>
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STUDENTNET(r) - Highly Commended: Australian Privacy Awards 2008<o:p></o:p></p>
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