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Hi,<br><br>I think the event Narelle was referring to was the Juniper Network's J-Tech Forum 2008.<br><br>Dr Miyakawa's talk at the J-Tech Forum 2008 has been reported in the media, but unfortunately it's in Japanese, hence why Google might not work for you.<br><br>http://enterprise.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/topic/2008/05/29/13036.html<br><br>As for the materials, he did the similar presentation at the IETF72 IAB tech plenary in July 2008: <br><br>http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/72/slides/plenaryw-2/sld1.htm<br><br>Also, the long version, which is similar to the presentation he did for J-tech, is can be found here: <br><br>http://www.nttv6.jp/~miyakawa/IETF72/IETF-IAB-TECH-PLENARY-NTT-miyakawa-extended.pdf<br><br>Thanks<br>Rich<br></font></p>
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<b>From</b>: ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net <ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net>
<br><b>To</b>: 'Kevin Karp' <ausnog@pps.com.au>; ausnog@ausnog.net <ausnog@ausnog.net>
<br><b>Sent</b>: Wed May 19 16:39:18 2010<br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] SMH: "No room at the internet"
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Kevin, John & Narelle<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I have a copy of the presentation from Miyakawa-san.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I’ll confirm if I can share it publicly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Puri<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] On
Behalf Of Kevin Karp<br>
Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 6:57 AM<br>
To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
Subject: [AusNOG] SMH: "No room at the internet"</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Narelle, John<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> >The presentation was by Dr Miyakawa from
NTT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">>I saw it at a customer event in 2008.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">>It was called "IPv4 address space exhaustion
and its solutions".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">>I can't find a link to it via Google.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">>I have a copy somewhere although I don't think I
can legally put it on a server and point everyone at it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">>At the time iTunes was peaking out at 230 to 270
simultaneous sessions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">>He showed an example of how Google Maps of the day
slowly degraded below 30 sessions. I suspect that it wouldn't survive below
100 today.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Prof Hiroshi Esaki included Dr Miyakawa's results at
the IPv6Hui in NZ last year. His presentation can be found here:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">http://www.ipv6.org.nz/02C%20-%20Hiroshi%20Esaki%20keynote%20-%20IPv6%20Hui.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">It includes the screenshots of the degraded user
experience when the number of ports is constrained.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Very compelling viewing!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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