<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">you could always do the old wifi or WIMAX :P to a mates house on the list :D<br><div apple-content-edited="true">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(21, 33, 246); font-size: 12px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(21, 33, 246); font-size: 12px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(21, 33, 246); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><b><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Cheers!<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Karl Kloppenborg</b></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; "><div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6">P</font> 02 8014 4253<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "> EXT:104</span></b></span> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-weight: bold; "> | <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">M </span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(21, 33, 246); font-weight: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">0438475892 <b>|</b> <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6">www</font>.karltec.net</span></b></span></span></b></span></span></span></b></div></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; ">Please consider the environment before printing this email. Think before you print. </span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></font></div></span></i></font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"></font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"></font></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span>
</font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6">
</font></span></i></font></div></span></i></font></div></span></span></i></font></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><br><div><div>On 18/05/2010, at 20:00, Kai wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I know, bad karma replying to my own post but I was just thinking I might have to bite the bullet and get ADSL, that said I've heard there's a serious port shortage here... hahaa, welcome to internetworking infrastructure in Darwin hey? :P<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Kai" <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 7:17:36 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne / Sydney<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin<br><br>Hi Darren,<br><br>Thanks for the info...<br><br>I was half expecting since Darwin's the capital we'd actually have better non-Telstra infrastructure here but apparently not. I'm guessing there are reasons (probably financially oriented) why everyone's leaning on Telstra, just frustrating to not have any real alternatives.<br><br>Is there an Optus rep on list who can provide any comments?<br><br>Cheers<br>Kai<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Darren Moss" <<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a>><br>To: "Kai" <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>>, <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 7:00:01 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne / Sydney<br>Subject: RE: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin<br><br>Kai,<br><br>We've been in Darwin for almost 4 years now and Telstra really is the<br>only option.<br>When we first investigated ethernet and fibre in the NT, what we found<br>was most providers were renting/reselling Telstra kit.<br><br>For mobile internet, you are better off on Telstra as the service is<br>proper 3G, not 3G indicator with 2G speeds :)<br>Our techs all originally had 3G Optus mobile internet which had to be<br>thrown out as the service was terrible.<br><br>HTH<br><br>Regards, <br><br><br>Darren Moss<br>General Manager<br>Australia and New Zealand<br>[p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287<br>[e] <a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a> [w] <a href="http://www.em3.com.au">www.em3.com.au</a><br><br>em3 People and Technology | Managed Technology Experts<br>postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189<br><br>New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City<br>postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>[p] 09 887 0550 [f] 09 887 0273<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai<br>Sent: 2010-05-18 4:27 pm<br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin<br><br>Righteo, thanks.<br>I'm interested to hear feedback from any Optus staff about their plans<br>with mobile broadband in this area.<br><br>When I was on holiday in Melbourne I got 3, worked in Melb, Syd and Bris<br>but not here, even though I thought 3 use Telstra's network.<br><br>I'm currently using Vodafone wireless broadband, sure the signal usually<br>sux and there's just enough radiation floating around to get a<br>reasonable connection. Telstra charge nearly twice as much for<br>recharge/monthly data allowance than any other carrier and since Optus<br>(and therefore Virgin, WestNet and any other Optus reseellers) don't<br>have service here, Vodafone will do.<br><br>Cheers<br>Kai<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Daniel Hooper" <<a href="mailto:dhooper@emerge.net.au">dhooper@emerge.net.au</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 3:43:27 PM GMT +09:30 Darwin<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin<br><br>From what I've heard Telstra is currently the only carrier with backhaul<br>(fibre) out of Darwin, so one would assume Optus is renting a slice of<br>that from Telstra and Optus is running a super high contention ratio on<br>that backhaul circuit themselves.<br><br>I'm still looking for more realistic priced services in Darwin myself,<br>currently paying a 4 digit figure a month for 512k BSDL services from<br>Telstra.<br><br>-Dan<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai<br>Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 1:51 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin<br><br>Hi guys and girls,<br><br>Can anyone shed some light on Optus mobile broadband in Darwin? Optus'<br>website service coverage map (<a href="http://www2.optus.com.au/">http://www2.optus.com.au/</a>) says it's<br>available all through Darwin however no one in any of the Optus stores<br>I've been to can give me any reasons why mobile broadband is not<br>available just that "it's not available anymore and we don't have any<br>indications when it will be back"....but if I want I can order Optus<br>based mobile through someone in another state and then just hope like<br>hell that the congestion doesn't hit too hard during peak and<br>effectively be as slow as dial-up.<br><br>I tried contacting Optus last week through their website but I don't<br>expect a reply anytime soon and if I do get a reply it'll probably be a<br>canned copy and paste.<br><br>I can only guess that since I get the impression there used to mobile<br>broadband here, congestion issues with mobile voice are causing issues,<br>however I thought voice and data may be on different frequencies so<br>congestion on the voice band wouldn't cause any issues?<br><br>Looking forward to any feedback<br><br>Cheers<br>Kai<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>