<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 18/05/2010, at 3:08 PM, Daniel Hood wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Onto a serious question from myself then. (Yes, Its hard to believe).<div><br></div><div>How many of Australia's ISP's are willing to start handing out IPv6 subnets then? And at what prices? </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><plug></div><div>We've had a dual stack trial running for a bit. Working on moving it into (semi) production.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://ipv6.internode.on.net">http://ipv6.internode.on.net</a></div><div><br></div><div>Our core network is fully dual stack in 7 countries, 4 continents.</div><div><br></div></plug></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div><div>
Especially to the home user (a.k.a network engineer's test environment). </div><div><br></div><div>Dan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Karl Kloppenborg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karl@karltec.net">karl@karltec.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">+1 real men use IPv6.<div><div class="im"><br><div>
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<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Need to sell IPv6 because it's more sexually potent.<div><br></div><div>Longer (128bits) and Harder (to remember). Real men use IPv6 in the bedroom.</div>
<div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 18/05/2010, at 2:59 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">It was a crap article... but exactly what we need.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">We need awareness of what is going to happen... even basic awareness of the term ‘ipv6’.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">This article will now make thousands of people aware of the concept.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Karl Kloppenborg<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday, 18 May 2010 2:49 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [AusNOG] SMH: "No room at the internet"</span></div>
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<Rant></div><div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">What a piece of rubbish journalism, I hope SMH people don't trawl around here, this isn't a personal attack to any SMH journo's but seriously how does that stuff get published?!?</div>
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Though complements to Geoff :)</div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"> </div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
Also what do you reckon the go will be with Iphone IPv6 support?</div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
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<br>"Could everyone please stop launching blogs and upgrading smartphones and buying airconditioners that are operated across the web? The internet is nearly full."<br><br>"In approximately 500 days, planet Earth is expected to run out of the unique numbers that identify the world's networked devices. The numbers are known as internet protocol addresses but if that sounds like geek, don't fret. They are probably more familiar than you realise."<br>
<br><br>All up, it's enough to make you cringe (starting with the lack of a capital I in the subject, it goes downhill from there), but there are some good quotes from Geoff Huston...<br><br> Scott.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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