<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I find it interesting Nextgen will offer this for 'Internet' services, but no mention of it being available for P-t-P: <a href="http://www.nextgennetworks.com.au/7629%20Nextgen%20Shadow%20DataSheet%20D11-2.pdf">http://www.nextgennetworks.com.au/7629%20Nextgen%20Shadow%20DataSheet%20D11-2.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>It addresses Matthew's concern of using both ports simultaneously with the following clause:</div><div>"Low usage levels are allowed on the shadow link in support of routine keep-alive and reasonable link availability testing. Any traffic profile where the 98th percentile utilisation of both the upstream and downstream directions is at or below 100kb/s will not incur excess usage charges."</div><div><br></div><div>Dan: perhaps ask nicely to see if they'll do something like this for you?</div><div><br></div><div>-Shane</div><div><br></div><div><div>On 14/05/2010, at 11:07 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">It's probably more a commercial issue:<div><br></div><div>(a) Duplicating ports on the same switch on your provider's end doesn't really provide much protection</div><div>(b) It's hard to deliver this without giving you "free" bandwidth (ie. how do you prevent you bursting on both ports simultaneously?)</div><div><br></div><div>I don't see mitigating a switch failure at your end is that useful unless you've actually built redundancy elsewhere. If you think a switch failure at your end is more likely than anything else then I'd probably choose a different switch/vendor!</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 14/05/2010, at 12:31 PM, Daniel Hooper wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Hi,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I’m trying to find out if there are any carriers out there who provide 2 ports at each end for a point to point Ethernet circuit? (VPLS)<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I’m trying to build some redundancy into a network, I’ve asked our carrier if they can provide 2 ports at each end to mitigate a switch failure on our end and they’ve essentially said no, buy another service identical to what you’ve already got if you want to do that. I don’t need anymore bandwidth, just separate physical interfaces to run on.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Speaking to other people in the industry, it seems the norm for carriers to provide the service over 2 physical ports if requested (obviously for a price). I’m curious if other people have been able to get this configuration on PTP Ethernet circuits ?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Just chasing info at the moment, possibly I need to jump ship to get what I want, or maybe I’m just dreaming and it’s a technical reason why it cant be done.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Regards,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Daniel<o:p></o:p></div></div><span><ATT00001..txt></span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>