<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 12/05/2010, at 5:20 PM, Richard Pruss wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>The thing that amazes me is that people keep telling the government that technology</div><div>is totally unsuited to what they want to do, real police is the way to go but they seem unwilling</div><div>to hear this. What part of it will not work do they not understand?</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div>Like I keep saying, this is a political debate, not a technical debate.<div><br></div><div>If the Government legislates for something that can't possibly work, and </div><div>everyone tries their best to comply and fails, they won't modify the plan</div><div>or admit they're wrong; They'll instead kick every ISP in the country in</div><div>the balls for being too incompetent to follow the law. </div><div><br></div><div>I guarantee that if this goes ahead there'll be a story on ACA or TT shortly</div><div>after implementation showing how batshit-crazy the scheme is by presenting</div><div>a wide-eyed impressionable 8 year old accessing RC content on a Rudd-issued</div><div>laptop out in front of a Julia Gillard Memorial Gymnasium, not bothered at all</div><div>by the presence of Conroy's rabbit-proof firewall.</div><div><br></div><div>And the Rudd Government won't say, "Yeah, right, we know, we goofed." </div><div>No, it'll call the child and their parents irresponsible and slam their ISP for</div><div>failing to do the impossible, then propose new legislative amendments to</div><div>criminalize circumvention. And when people circumvent anyway the next</div><div>stage will be to make ISPs responsible for third-party circumvention, just</div><div>like copyright rightsholders want us to be responsible for third party copyright</div><div>infringement. And they'll be egged on by their friends at the Australian </div><div>Christian Lobby every step of the way, because they've already made it </div><div>clear that their ultimate aim is to have all adult content banned from all media,</div><div>and that ISP censorship of RC content is merely a step on the path.</div><div><br></div><div>It's what they do. The only way any scheme like this can ever have any</div><div>credibility is if they ratchet-up authoritarian controls until discrediting it is</div><div>considered dangerous and suspicious, and you can't get around it without</div><div>being a criminal. Scope creep is built-in.</div><div><br></div><div>And none of that has anything whatsoever to do with whether it can ever</div><div>"work." Indeed, the scope creep the ACL really wants to see is predicated</div><div>on it never working, so they'll always have an excuse to tighten the screws</div><div>more. They know the scheme is a technical lemon, and they're counting on it.</div><div><br></div><div>Any questions?</div><div><br></div><div> - mark</div><div><br></div><div><div>
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