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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>1, for the most part it will more then likely just be another
last mile service provider that they can use, i guess over time it will replace
old dsl services really depends on the grade of services that NBN offer, if
they want to market towards business customers they need to have a higher level
SLA, this will also shape in a great way how the NBN flows into business grade services
and market place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>2, this worries me i work for a company that i guess is in the
market place of helping business’s who can’t get services delivered
or don’t want to pay the high costs of fibre, we currently offer services
from 10 to 100mbit,and even higher if needed, will we be seen as a cherry
picker? The business i work for has been around for a few years now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It all sounds very communistic and very anti competitive i can
only assume they are trying to stop cherry picking from people like Telstra,
but they can’t just hammer one provider so they are going to put everyone
in the same basket.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>3, I have no idea<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>4, once again it all depends on the level of the services offered,
we only have a handful of customers who host there full services onsite, most
business’s will use a dc to host the servers, you can’t beat the
UPS/Genny and aircon that comes with your hosted services/solutions in data centres
and if you’re a real business you’re not going to muck about you
will host your stuff in a dc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am much like a lot of people on this list i want to know what
they mean by cherry pickers but at the same time i still think at this stage
NBN is a long way from becoming reality and the whole thing could still fall in
the mud, frankly i don’t feel its needed and im sure a lot of people on
the list will flame me for this point of view but there are plenty of business’s
out there like the one i work for that offer last mile services where the other
big carriers won’t go.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My final though is that the NBN will if anything kill competition,
providers will stop building their own networks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>NBN will become the largest last mile provider, i only hope that
if the network gets built it remains the peoples network unlike our old copper
network that was sold off.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karl Kloppenborg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 12 May 2010 2:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Help with NBN questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Noggers,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Recently I have been to busy to follow the NBN debates and
everything else, can the list verify some points for me?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>1) how will the NBN affect wholesale internet suppliers?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>2) someone told me that anyone who competes with the NBN
will face prosecution? does this mean anyone who builds a fibre network (I just
plainly don't know what to take with that)<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>3) will the NBN affect the way we deliver our transit?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>4) and most importantly if people can now access 100Mbit
speeds (potentially) then what happens to us guys who make money off hosting
peoples servers, I could see a sharp decrease in this?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Any thoughts much appreciated!<o:p></o:p></p>

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Cheers!<br>
Karl Kloppenborg</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
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