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Yes, but Exetel don't do wholesale, therefor any "user" , be they residential or commercial, are exactly that, an end user <IMG SRC="cid:1271741821.7620.1.camel@tardis" ALIGN="middle" ALT=":)" BORDER="0"><BR>
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On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 14:05 +1000, Karl Kloppenborg wrote:<BR>
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    That is also my understanding of the charter, however did the OP tell us if he was a user or Network engineer (or similar)?
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    <B>Cheers!</B><BR>
    <B>Karl Kloppenborg</B>
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    On 20/04/2010, at 13:52, Noel Butler wrote:
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        Was the list charter recently changed?<BR>
        As I thought it was forbidden for end users to use this list to seek help from their ISP.<BR>
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        On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 09:38 +1000, Kevin Collins wrote: <BR>
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            All working now, still don’t know what has happened as was unable to see the exetel router<BR>
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            <B>From:</B> <A HREF="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</A> [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Darren Moss<BR>
            <B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 20 April 2010 8:54 AM<BR>
            <B>To:</B> Kevin Collins; <A HREF="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</A><BR>
            <B>Subject:</B> Re: [AusNOG] exetel sydney down<BR>
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            Hi Kevin,<BR>
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            We have connections with Exetel in Sydney and they are working fine.<BR>
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            Regards, <BR>
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            <B>Darren Moss</B><BR>
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            <B>From:</B><A HREF="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</A> [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kevin Collins<BR>
            <B>Sent:</B> 2010-04-20 8:51 am<BR>
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            <B>Subject:</B> [AusNOG] exetel sydney down<BR>
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            anyone have news about a exetel outage in sydney at the moment?<BR>
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