<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">That is also my understanding of the charter, however did the OP tell us if he was a user or Network engineer (or similar)?<div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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Was the list charter recently changed?<br>
As I thought it was forbidden for end users to use this list to seek help from their ISP.<br>
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All working now, still don’t know what has happened as was unable to see the exetel router<br>
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Moss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 20 April 2010 8:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin Collins; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] exetel sydney down<br>
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We have connections with Exetel in Sydney and they are working fine.<br>
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postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>
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<b>From:</b><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Collins<br>
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] exetel sydney down<br>
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anyone have news about a exetel outage in sydney at the moment?<br>
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