I believe Telstra are the only ones with actual fibre into Darwin. Amcom is presumably buying an underlying Telstra service of some sort.<br><br>Darwin was on the $250M blackspot program :<br><br><a href="http://www.dbcde.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/123580/RBBP-Darwin-Emerald-Longreach.pdf">http://www.dbcde.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/123580/RBBP-Darwin-Emerald-Longreach.pdf</a><br>
<br>Brent<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Darren Moss <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hi Curtis,</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Amcom has a circuit from Perth to Darwin.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I wouldn't put any money on Optus having anything there... we
tried that path years ago and it was all talk before hitting a dead
end.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">If you need a reliable service that has the bandwidth and is
going to get the job done with minimal hassle, I would just suck it up and head
to Telstra.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Whilst they are incredibly expensive, you will save your time
and sanity. </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Make sure you have a failover solution, because in Darwin you
will need it.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Cheers.</font></span></div>
<div> </div>
<p align="left"></p><div class="im"><font face="verdana" size="2">Regards, <br> <br> <br><b>Darren
Moss<br></b>General Manager<br>Australia and New Zealand<br>[p] 1300 131
083 [f] 03 9017 2287<br>[e] <a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au" target="_blank">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a> [w] <a href="http://www.em3.com.au/" target="_blank">www.em3.com.au</a></font></div><font face="verdana"><br>
<font size="2"> <div class="im"><br><b>em3 People and Technology |
Managed Technology Experts<br></b>postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC
3189<br><br><b>New Zealand</b> Airedale Street, Auckland
City<br>postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>[p] 09 887 0550 </div></font><font face="verdana" size="2">[f] 09 887 0273</font><font size="2"><br></font></font>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Curtis Bayne [mailto:<a href="mailto:curtis@bayne.com.au" target="_blank">curtis@bayne.com.au</a>]
<br><b>Sent:</b> 2010-03-19 11:15 am<br><b>To:</b> Darren Moss; Skeeve Stevens;
Ben Cornish; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] Darwin
Connectivity<br></font><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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<p><font size="2">Darren,<br><br>Other than Telstra, does anyone else have
backhaul up top? A multi-hop microwave circuit perhaps?<br><br>An Optus tech
(who used to work in carriage) mentioned to me once that Optus have a fibre
circuit between Brisbane and Perth for redundancy, but was unable to indicate
whether there was a spur to
Darwin.<br><br>Regards,<br>Curtis<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
Darren Moss [<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a>]<br>Sent:
Fri 3/19/2010 10:12 AM<br>To: Skeeve Stevens; Curtis Bayne; Ben Cornish;
<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Darwin Connectivity<br><br>You really
need to go there and look at the infrastructure first. It's<br>not like other
locations around the country.<br><br>Telstra is pretty much it. And they are
really the only party<br>maintaining anything.<br><br>Backhaul is via
Adelaide.<br><br>It is reasonably responsive, we run VoIP and video conferencing
over our<br>services back to Melb and Sydney with no issues.... apart from the
odd<br>outage due to
weather/power/water.<br><br>Cheers.<br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><br>Darren
Moss<br>General Manager<br>Australia and New Zealand<br>[p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03
9017 2287<br>[e] <a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au" target="_blank">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a> [w] <a href="http://www.em3.com.au" target="_blank">www.em3.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.em3.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.em3.com.au/</a>><br>
<br><br>em3
People and Technology | Managed Technology Experts<br>postal: PO Box 2333,
Moorabbin VIC 3189<br><br>New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City<br>postal:
PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>[p] 09 887 0550 [f] 09 887
0273<br><br><br><br><br>________________________________<br><br>From:
<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens<br>Sent: 2010-03-19 11:09 am<br>To: Curtis Bayne;
Ben Cornish; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Darwin
Connectivity<br><br><br><br>So this exchange list I have from 2006 for
XYZed<br><br><br><br>2<br><br>ALICE
SPRINGS<br><br>ALSS<br><br>4<br><br>PARSONS<br><br>ST<br><br>ALICE
SPRINGS<br><br>ALICE SPRINGS<br><br>NT<br><br>3<br><br>Regional
4<br><br>55<br><br>DARWIN<br><br>DRWN<br><br>99<br><br>SMITH<br><br>ST<br><br>DARWIN<br><br>DARWIN<br><br>NT<br><br>2<br><br>Regional
4<br><br><br><br>Did they pull those DLAM's out then?<br><br><br><br>Anyone got
a current exchange list for
XYZed?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical
Director<br><br>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking
Specialists<br><br><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a> / <a href="http://www.eintellego.net" target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a><br><br>Phone: 1300
753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<br><br>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 /
skype://skeeve<br><br><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> ;
<a href="http://facebook.com/eintellego" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellego</a><br><br>--<br><br>NOC, NOC, who's
there?<br><br><br><br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Curtis Bayne<br>Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 10:52 AM<br>To: Skeeve
Stevens; Ben Cornish; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Darwin
Connectivity<br><br><br><br>If you're interested in terminating in Brisbane you
can get (with some<br>kicking and screaming) a Telstra ATM/Frame Relay service
between Darwin<br>and Brisbane that goes via their old trunk circuits in
Townsville.<br>Townsville used to be a major switching centre/agg point for
Telstra<br>traffic in the north.<br><br>RTT to Brisbane is less than 50ms in
some cases and I'm sure they'd have<br>4Mbps of spare capacity.<br><br>As far as
I am aware, Optus do not have DSLAMs in Alice Springs or<br>Darwin: there is no
competitive infrastructure
there.<br><br>Regards,<br>Curtis<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> on behalf of Skeeve Stevens<br>Sent: Fri
3/19/2010 9:42 AM<br>To: Ben Cornish; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG]
Darwin Connectivity<br><br>Doesn't Optus have DSLAM's in Darwin? They have one
in Alice Springs.<br><br>Telstra has 4/4 in Darwin... you can get a handoff from
NN.<br><br>I thought you guys were an Optus
partner?<br><br>...Skeeve<br><br>--<br>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical
Director<br>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking
Specialists<br><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a> / <a href="http://www.eintellego.net" target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a><br>Phone: 1300 753
383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<br>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 /
skype://skeeve<br><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> ;
<a href="http://facebook.com/eintellego" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellego</a><br>--<br>NOC, NOC, who's there?<br><br>From:
<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Ben Cornish<br>Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 10:05 AM<br>To:
<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: [AusNOG] Darwin Connectivity<br><br>HI
All,<br><br>Does anyone have any recommendations for 4Mb/sec symmetrical
reliable<br>Services in the Darwin area aggregated back to Either SA/BNE/SYD/MEL
at<br>a reasonable price ?<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Ben Cornish<br>National Network
Manager<br><br>Direct 07 3234 9302 Direct: 02 8235 3520<br>Mobile 0417 617
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