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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I see that MM is eager to engage with the film studios after this verdict. (Re:
<a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/166367,video-malone-calls-for-film-industry-to-embrace-the-net.aspx">
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/166367,video-malone-calls-for-film-industry-to-embrace-the-net.aspx</a> ) I’m not surprised given that iinet IPTV is due for release soon. After hearing MM talk at the NBN forum in Perth this week content will become increasingly
important in a residential market where technical advances (i.e. speed) becomes increasingly available to more and more of the population.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Moss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 4 February 2010 1:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nicholas Meredith; Bevan Slattery<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] iiNet update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue">I think the judge is generalising, by saying that it was not purely via the use of "internet" services provided by iiNet that caused copyright infringement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue">Instead, he is most likely suggesting BitTorrent is the "tool" being used to assist with the act of copyright infringement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue">But at the end of the day, the "user" is the offending component in all this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue">Thank goodness the court did not uphold the claim against iiNet. It could have led to all sorts of stupid claims by industries and providers who want to make a
dollar out of people - the very people who most likely pay for and take their family/friends to use the service offered in the first place (ie: Cinema, Foxtel, SkyHome).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue">The movie industry needs to protect their own industry through their own means - ie: finding ways to protect their product or new ways to distribute their product,
just the same way as other industries have done. For example - streaming internet radio stations pay a royalty to broadcast music and copyright content.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue">There's no point in litigating against (screwing) the service provider, because even if they (AFACT) won, what could service providers do to ensure they would
not also be affected by the same claims both now and into the future.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue">What was all this over again ??? Oh yeah, entertainment. If the clever lawyers at AFACT engaged with the internet industry to legally distribute their content,
I'm sure the majority of public internet users would be open to some form of user pays system.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Regards, <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Meredith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2010-02-04 3:58 pm<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] iiNet update</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:Bevan.Slattery@staff.pipenetworks.com">Bevan.Slattery@staff.pipenetworks.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"copyright occured as result of use of BitTorrent, not the Internet"<br>
said Justice Cowdroy<o:p></o:p></p>
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I couldn't be happier for the sane ruling on this case, but this begs the question, does this Judge have ANY idea at all what the Internet is? I'm referring to the context of a home user who sees the World Wide Web as the 'Internet' and E-Mail and everything
else as just E-Mail etc. The statement above shows a lack of comprehension that all services are 'the Internet.'<br>
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Or are they breaking it down into OSI Layer2/3, where the Internet is defined as IP connectivity, and not the application protocols that reside above?<br>
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- Nicholas Meredith<o:p></o:p></p>
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