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<P><FONT SIZE=2>If only there were some new, national network being built that negates the need for current CPE so we could co-incide the release of ethernet-based CPE that supports IPv6 from the get-go.<BR>
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Oh, wait...<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Noel Butler<BR>
Sent: Fri 1/22/2010 8:16 AM<BR>
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<BR>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Less than 10% of IPv4 Addresses Remain Unallocated<BR>
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On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 12:28 +1100, James Spenceley wrote:<BR>
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> > Yep, and I still stand by at _LEAST_ 2015 before we seriously get close to looking like running out of ipv4, maybe longer than that.<BR>
> > There's around 400 million IP's stilll up for grabs.<BR>
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> and how many phones/computer will connect to the Indian and Chinese Internet in the next year ?<BR>
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How many connected last year...<BR>
4 x /8's issued to APNIC<BR>
4 x /8's issued to RIPE<BR>
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I'm well aware that the majority of vocal people on this list are<BR>
supporters of ipv6, I just have an investigative mind, in other words,<BR>
I do think some here are hyping things up for their own agenda, just<BR>
like those did back in 90's.<BR>
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I mean, talking about ripping off end users more money because they use<BR>
ipv4 like Skeeve brought up, pleaaseeeee, , you try to force everyone<BR>
onto ipv6, then there's going to plenty of spare ipv4 in APNIC's pool<BR>
isn't there, so no problem for the ISP's that wont rip them off :)<BR>
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So apart from the noise makers on this list beating their chest about<BR>
it, is anyone actually in serious talks with CPE vendors, how about<BR>
retailers? find some cluey retailers and get them to push vendors as<BR>
well, after all, that's where this needs to start.<BR>
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As someone else mentioned, the vast majority of end users don't care,<BR>
they will not sit down and google it, they will not read white papers or<BR>
RFC's about it, they have no desire to learn squat about it, all they<BR>
want is for the Internet to work, existing customers and in next few<BR>
years or so should easily be serviced by ipv4, it's the newbie from<BR>
nearing then, the ones who go out and buy brand new CPE because its<BR>
their first, or their existing one got blow to hell in a storm that<BR>
needs to be targeted towards ipv6 capable CPE.<BR>
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Cheers<BR>
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