<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 21/01/2010, at 11:07 AM, Geoff Huston wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font>What tends to get tractions with vendors, large and small, is purchase orders! </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The issue is that the people who place the BIG orders in the world aren't asking for it yet. We've been willing to flash the cash at any vendor who can actually sell us something but we're tiny in a world context for buy CPE.</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>The problem is that for CPE its not the ISP that conventionally buys the CPE, its the end users who head to their local retail outlet online or in the store and buy the (cheapest) unit they can get their hands on, and, unfortunately, no IPv6 is included in their requirements in general. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Nah, it's the big telcos around the world who bundle CPE as part of the service. The aftermarket stuff isn't that interesting.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font><br>But its not all just the end user's CPE purchase decisions. The wireless market has its own issues here.</div></blockquote><br></div><div>None of the, for instance, Huawei 3G dongles will support IPv6. In fact their architecture makes it impossible.</div><div><br></div><div>Technologies which may help:</div><div><br></div><div>LTE -> VzB is, amongst others, pushing in the USA to make IPv6 critical to it's LTE roll out. LTE will drive IPv6 I reckon.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ipv6+verizon+lte">http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ipv6+verizon+lte</a></div><div><br></div><div>DOCSIS3 is IPv6 capable as well. (Not that anyone in Oz running DOCSIS3 actually has an IPv6 capable transit network ...)</div><div><br></div><div>We, Internode, have actually got some IPv6 running for customers (both transit, corporate and residential on ADSL). CPE as has been identified is the key. Many vendors have made claims so far about support but either really don't or are just thinking about it. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div></body></html>