<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">remember that saying "if it isn't broken don't fix it" (I think it was something along those lines)<div><br></div><div>Something tells me the people who manage Macdonalds wifi are in a predicament now... it works? but it is WORKING?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(21, 33, 246); 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-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><b><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Cheers!<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Karl Kloppenborg</b></div><div>Technical Director @ Karltec</div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(5, 97, 0); 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font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6">P</font> 02 8014 4253<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "> EXT:104</span></b></span> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-weight: bold; "> | <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">M </span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(21, 33, 246); font-weight: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">0438475892 <b>|</b> <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6">www</font>.karltec.net</span></b></span></span></b></span></span></span></b></div></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(5, 97, 0); font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; ">Please consider the environment before printing this email. Think before you print. </span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"><i><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></i></font></div></span></i></font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"></font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#056100" size="1"></font></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span> </font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1521F6"></font></span></i></font></div></span></i></font></div></span></span></i></font></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><br><div><div>On 20/01/2010, at 13:12, Mark Smith wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:09:04 +1100<br>Karl Kloppenborg <<a href="mailto:karl@karltec.net">karl@karltec.net</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Maccas in burwood and circular quay sydney ;)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>Just another example of "just because it works, doesn't mean it's<br>right".<br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">Cheers!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Karl Kloppenborg<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Technical Director @ Karltec<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">P 02 8014 4253 EXT:104 | M 0438475892 | <a href="http://www.karltec.net">www.karltec.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Please consider the environment before printing this email. Think <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">before you print.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 20/01/2010, at 12:55, Steve Lisson wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I believe the free McDonalds wireless (at least at Brisbane Central)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">uses 1/8 :)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(Let the jokes begin :)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Shane Short<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:43 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: Dobbins, Roland<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [Fwd: [bogon-announce] IANA IPv4 allocations and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">bogonupdate 1/8 and 27/8]<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I agree..<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">And even more so given the impending 'address crunch'-- you should<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">never use address space that's not allocated to you *especially* if<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">it's permanent..<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Anyone who does is asking for trouble and will be met with "hahah<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">suckers" :)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 20/01/2010, at 9:06 AM, "Dobbins, Roland" <<a href="mailto:rdobbins@arbor.net">rdobbins@arbor.net</a>> <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 20, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Jeremy Visser wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From what I heard one, 1.0.0.0/8 is a de facto standard for<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">transitioning routers between large companies in the context of<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">joining networks after a merger, or other forms of inter-company<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">peering.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I've never hear of or run into this anywhere in the world, FWIW.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Unallocated netblocks should never be used for such purposes due to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the disruption caused when they're finally allocated, as is this<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">case in this instance.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">---<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--------------------------------------------------------------------<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> // <<a 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