<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>"Through an opt-out system, adults who still want to view currently legal</div><div>content would advise their ISP that they want to opt out of the "clean feed",</div></div></blockquote><br><div>I think the word "legal" is the key word here.</div><div><br></div><div>We all know how Conroy likes to use that word "legal" loosely.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's assume he's using it in the sense of 'legal to view' or 'legal to sell'.</div><div><br></div><div>The election promise would make sense then, right?</div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On 04/01/2010, at 6:54 PM, Mark Newton wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 04/01/2010, at 5:14 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>The labor party made a promise - they don't want to back down on it, so they're going ahead with something stupid.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Here's the 2006 policy document:</div><div><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060422120043/http://www.alp.org.au/media/0306/msloo210.php">http://web.archive.org/web/20060422120043/http://www.alp.org.au/media/0306/msloo210.php</a></div><div>"Through an opt-out system, adults who still want to view currently
legal</div><div>content would advise their ISP that they want to opt out of the
"clean feed",</div><div>and would then face the same regulations which currently
apply."</div><div><br></div><div>That policy was approved by the ALP as part of their platform, and</div><div>still in place when the 2007 election rolled around.</div><div><br></div><div>The "Labor's Plan for Cyber Safety" fact sheet released 5 days before</div><div>the election was based on this document.</div><div><br></div><div>The 2007 document contains substantially the same wording as the 2006</div><div>policy. After the 2007 election, Conroy confirmed the promised optionality</div><div>of the scheme in his announcement in December 2007:</div><div><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/31/2129471.htm">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/31/2129471.htm</a></div><div>"Senator Conroy says anyone wanting uncensored access to the</div><div>internet will have to opt out of the service."</div><div><br></div><div>It's clear that the pre-election information provided to Australians, confirmed</div><div>by the Minister's own post-election words, stipulated that the ALP would</div><div>"... require IPSs to <b><i>offer</i></b> a `clean feed' internet service to all homes, schools</div><div>and public internet points <b><i>accessible by children</i></b>, such as public libraries."</div><div>(<a href="http://www.alp.org.au/download/labors_plan_for_cyber_safety.pdf">http://www.alp.org.au/download/labors_plan_for_cyber_safety.pdf</a> page</div><div>5)</div><div>Both the 2006 document and the 2007 document specified</div><div>that the scheme would concern itself with "... content that has been</div><div>identified as prohibited by the Australian Communications and Media</div><div>Authority." </div><div><br></div><div>So the "promise" was an <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">optional</span> system which would inhibit the </div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">ACMA Prohibited Content</span> list for <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">children</span>.</div><div><br></div><div>Instead we have a <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">mandatory</span> system which inhibits <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">RC</span> for <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">adults</span>.</div><div><br></div><div>On every conceivable level, the current proposal represents a </div><div>breach of an election promise, not its delivery.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Stupidity before Dishonor is the politicians creed.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>This is stupidity <i>and</i> dishonor.</div><div><br></div><div>Check out the comments at Kate Lundy's blog -- I'm not alone in </div><div>my interpretation of the pre-election materials or the identification</div><div>of this policy as a breach of an election promise. A very large number</div><div>of people who identify themselves as either ALP members or long-</div><div>term ALP voters have been voicing their sense of betrayal over </div><div>there:</div><div><a href="http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/12/17/my-thoughts-on-the-filter/">http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/12/17/my-thoughts-on-the-filter/</a></div><div><a href="http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/12/21/further-thoughts-on-the-filter/">http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/12/21/further-thoughts-on-the-filter/</a></div><div><br></div><div>The second post indicates to me that Lundy herself understands</div><div>the difference between the election promise and the current policy</div><div>proposal. She's moving in the right direction; Any voters in her ACT</div><div>electorate who feel like having their voice heard ought to get in touch</div><div>with her.</div><div><br></div><div> - mark</div><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Andale Mono'" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">--</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Andale Mono'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; ">Mark Newton Email: <a href="mailto:newton@internode.com.au">newton@internode.com.au</a> (W)</span></font></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Andale Mono'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; ">Network Engineer Email: <a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a> (H)</span></font></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Andale Mono'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; ">Internode Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999</span></font></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Andale Mono'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; ">"Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223</span></font></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Andale Mono'"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></font></font></div></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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