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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Agreed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I didn’t see anything either. I’ll
add another group – ISPs that provide internet access for government departments.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My understanding we have clients that need
completely unfiltered access to do their job. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are there exceptions?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-- Craig Meyers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>BTW As a disclaimer, I’m only
speaking as myself here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 16 December 2009
10:36 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] Conroy
announcement on filtering</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Question,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Does anyone know the
finer points of this proposal... meaning... is it aimed/directed at
consumer/retail ISP’s – which seems to be their justification
– or to all ISP’s who sell connectivity.. and what is the flow down
effect?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I.e. Does
Vocus have to do this? Does Telstra Direct? If I have an ISP we manage
who has say both of those as transit providers, who are (?) filtered, do we
then have to worry as the upstreams are? It would be kind of redundant?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>So, let’s
ponder that companies like Vocus, MCI, etc who only sell transit to
businesses... or a business focused ISP – do they have to filter?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I have some Micro
sized ISP’s – like PowerTel partners and alike... do they have to
filter? They only have a few hundred connections and only to businesses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Just pondering
eintellego’s response, but don’t actually see anything that
differentiates what an ISP is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens,
CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd -
The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net
/ www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753 383,
Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753
383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve
; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#002060" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's
there?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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