AWIX - Australian Wide Internet Exchange<div><br></div><div>Your Thoughts?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Mark Caetano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@akami.info">mark@akami.info</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">AUIX sounds fitting.<br>
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On 16/12/2009, at 5:56 PM, Steve Baxter wrote:<br>
<br>
> NISP<br>
> AUIX<br>
> AusBone<br>
> SIX<br>
> BIX<br>
> VIX<br>
><br>
> What will you call it ?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> SB<br>
><br>
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>> From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Curtis Bayne<br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:30 PM<br>
>> To: Adrian Chadd; Daragh Mc Grath<br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange<br>
>><br>
>> This is a concept which I have been considering in depth for<br>
>> about two years now.<br>
>><br>
>> It's gone as far as a planning stage, but we pulled back in<br>
>> the belief that, as a commercial organization, we do not add<br>
>> any value over current commercial operations - put quite<br>
>> simply, it's a "nice to have" but as an commercial venture it<br>
>> is doomed to failure (this is a testament to the quality of<br>
>> PIPE's product).<br>
>><br>
>> I am both willing and able to participate, whether it be<br>
>> financially or through the provision of space (co-location or<br>
>> otherwise) to make a venture such as this a reality.<br>
>><br>
>> Anyone in Brisbane who is *serious* about making this happen<br>
>> can contact me either on or off list - I am happy to provide<br>
>> resources, strategic direction or moral support (whatever is<br>
>> most needed) and I don't doubt there are others like me<br>
>> willing to support this kind of operation.<br>
>><br>
>> Curtis<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> on behalf of Adrian Chadd<br>
>> Sent: Wed 12/16/2009 4:11 PM<br>
>> To: Daragh Mc Grath<br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:<br>
>>> I'm glad to see this discussion has been kicked off here, it's<br>
>>> something I've thought about on and off over the past few years.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Having worked for a major European exchange in the past (LINX) I've<br>
>>> been disappointed by the approach to peering here in<br>
>> Australia since I<br>
>>> moved around 2 years ago. Not having the big telco's present at<br>
>>> exchange points is the obvious cause, and given their<br>
>> willingness to<br>
>>> participate at other exchange points around the world but<br>
>> not at home, this is disappointing.<br>
>><br>
>> There's reasons for this.<br>
>><br>
>>> I believe that unless you have the major players engaged, an<br>
>>> alternative exchange is not going to happen (or may do, but<br>
>> won't be<br>
>>> as successful as it should!). The best way of trying to<br>
>> encourage that<br>
>>> is for an exchange to be setup as outlined by MMC, mutually<br>
>> owned and<br>
>>> most importantly, operate as a not for profit. To quote<br>
>> LINX, existing for the good of the internet.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I will be following this thread with interest.<br>
>><br>
>> The large telcos don't peer publicly because they want to<br>
>> sell transit.<br>
>> Larger ISPs that started peering when they were smaller ISPs<br>
>> are waking up to this.<br>
>><br>
>> ISPs in the European/American markets have woken up to this.<br>
>> You can't necessarily get peering with everyone these days.<br>
>> The telco's may be at an IX but they won't peer with you at<br>
>> it. The reason the large telco's were historically at the AU<br>
>> IXes is because of the MLPA mandate.<br>
>> It does not at all mean they do not peer.<br>
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>><br>
>><br>
>> Adrian<br>
>><br>
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Regards,<br>
Mark Caetano<br>
Managing Director<br>
Akami Hosting/Dominium Systems<br>
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