<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On 15/12/2009, at 3:42 PM, Roddy Strachan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div> <font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115">http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115</a><br> </span></font> </div> </blockquote></div><br><div>Hrrm, so ISP's are going to start *having* to do transparent proxying? Does that mean every time anyone's web browsing seems a bit slow, they can phone their ISP to complain? ;)</div><div><br></div><div>Hrrm, wonder how many complaints it'll take before the ISP's tell the govt to shove it? (and quite seriously here.. If the big ISPs turn around and tell the govt that it's not economically feasible because of the extra support required, can the govt really do anything except back down and go hide in a corner?)</div><div><br></div><div>At home I pay the extra dosh to a 'real' ISP, rather than one of the cheapo mobs like dodo or TPG, because I *hate* transparent proxies with a vengeance - they're a web developer's nightmare, and just generally horrible things to do anything but basic web browsing through (seriously, HTTP isn't the only thing that runs over port 80!) - and now the govt is legislating that my home internet connection HAS to have a transparent proxy?? I shudder to think of the hassle it's going to be for ISP's to implement this filtering?? Even assuming it's done as I remember one of the ISP's did in the trial, and only redirect traffic for IP's that blocked sites are hosted on, to capture just those site's, that's still a fair bit of extra processing on the routers, let alone having to also manage it at the proxy?</div><div><br></div><div>And the folks that *want* to look at this stuff are just going to use one of the thousands of open proxies, or their $15/month linode to get past the blocks anyway!</div><div><br></div><div>Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making sure our kids can't access nasty stuff, but that's for me to do at home with the kids' segment of the network (when they're old enough - their notebooks are just sleep-time music, and audio monitors at the moment!), not for the govt to force on us at the ISP level?!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>DG</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Damien Gardner Jnr<br>VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust<br><a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net">rendrag@rendrag.net</a> - <a href="http://www.rendrag.net/">http://www.rendrag.net/</a><br>--<br>We rode on the winds of the rising storm,<br> We ran to the sounds of thunder.<br>We danced among the lightning bolts,<br> and tore the world asunder</div><div><br></div></div></span></div></body></html>