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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=855130812-21102009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>I have to completely agree. There are many holes in the
legislation and logic. I think with the appropriate
time/consulting/feedback this could be very worthwhile. But there are some
extraordinary inconsistencies with the legislation, public comment by
politicians and industry types. In a doorstop interview today Sen Conroy
said:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=855130812-21102009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>"<FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Let's be clear. It's unfortunate
that Senator Minchin is struggling to understand the difference between a
broadband service and a phone line. No-one has suggested that the copper lines
in the 10 per cent are suddenly going to vanish or that they're going to be cut
off or that they're going to be pulled out, which is exactly what Nick Minchin's
suggesting."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am confused. So when Telstra
are forced to split under the current legislation and handover it's network to
NBN Co (or whoever) who is actually responsible for maintaining those exchanges
and it's associated copper. I thought Telstra were not going to operate a
fixed line service under the separation model?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyone? Foreman from the
CCC?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[b]</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Grahame Lynch
[mailto:grahamelynch@commsdaymail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 21 October
2009 9:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Bevan Slattery<BR><B>Cc:</B>
ausnog@ausnog.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AusNOG] CCC and Terria "rage against
coalition"<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I'm intrigued by this idea that you can one hand legislate to compel
Telstra to divest any ownership ties to a fixed network and become a
pure retailer but on the other hand - in the same bill - you can legislate even
greater requirements than today for Telstra to be responsible for fixed network
delivery in the bush via the USO.</DIV>
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<DIV>Seems to me like a fairly irreconcilable twin set of obligations to me. The
government line is that it will all be figured out down the track which I guess
is fair enough - if you're also prepared to relax the apparently
urgent deadline for the legislation itself and the requirement for Telstra to
commit to the terms of its separation before it knows the terms of its
obligations in terms of USO and so forth.</DIV>
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<DIV>Somebody in the Department has made a mess of this one.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2009/10/21 Bevan Slattery <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:Bevan.Slattery@staff.pipenetworks.com">Bevan.Slattery@staff.pipenetworks.com</A>></SPAN><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><A
href="http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/323020/rage_against_coalition_industry_"
target=_blank>http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/323020/rage_against_coalition_industry_</A><BR>lashes_opposition_fights_against_telstra_separation<BR><BR>Bit
over the top?? I'd like to see the legislation look at solving
the<BR>real/future problems such as reduce the negotiate/arbitrate process
for<BR>regulated (rather than only declared as proposed in the
legislation)<BR>bottleneck infrastructure such as duct access (NBN) and towers
(4G/LTE)<BR>rather than mainly focus on the copper world.<BR><BR>I'm trying to
think why the violent reaction from CCC and TERRIA? Is it<BR>no longer
'cool' to ask
questions?<BR><BR>[b]<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>AusNOG
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<DIV></DIV><BR>-- <BR>Grahame Lynch<BR>Ph/SMS: +668 1701 7664<BR>Skype:
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