<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 18/09/2009, at 8:26 AM, Shane Short wrote:</div><snip<br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:29:37 +1000, "Darren Moss" <<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a>><br>wrote:<br><snip><br><blockquote type="cite">I am surprised that in this day and age we don't have.....<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">A) APNIC checking block owner details and suspending where information is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">not correct (ie: automatic email checking or automatic phone dialer with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">response keys required)<br></blockquote><br>This may sound rather daft, but if the contact information for the<br>particular IP block is incorrect, how does APNIC get in contact with the<br>person to tell them their details are wrong? What about all the legacy<br>AUNIC blocks that were brought over that aren't associated with an APNIC<br>account?<br><br>I'm not even so sure how APNIC would go about 'suspending' the IP address<br>space, especially if they're unable to contact the owner. Maybe they'd<br>publish it in a blacklist of sorts? I wonder how long it'd take someone to<br>realise this and get on the phone to their lawyer, because these 'APNIC'<br>people have stopped their internets working.<br></div></blockquote></div><snip><div><br></div><div>I agree with Darren on this one. Sanity checking contact data is always a good thing.<br><div><br></div><div>As to how to get in touch, APNIC would get in touch using their billing data. If there is anything you can rely on being up to date, its a billing database.</div><div><br></div><div>Given that invoices are sent out once a year by APNIC for members to renew, contact details should perhaps be updated at this point in time too. Perhaps even just an automated email goes out requiring a link be clicked to say '<i>yes, im alive and paying attention</i>' once every 6 months? No response in 2 weeks? escalate to a billing contact, still no response?, flag as 'needs a phone call'. Shouldn't need to hire any more people, just a bit of work for the in-house development team.</div><div><br></div><div>Don't get me wrong, APNIC do a great job... just like with anything, there is always scope for improvement.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div>-Shaun</div><div><br></div></div></body></html>