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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Our issues at ATUG – not sure of our
position yet!!! And grateful for any input…..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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     do we ensure we provide opportunities for competitive choice for customers
     with big, national branch networks including low density areas –
     think Woolworths, ANZ, Coles, Commonwealth bank?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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     do we provide “White Label” opportunities such as we see in <st1:country-region
     w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> –
     Sainsbury/Tesco – here could be Woolworths, Elders, Office Works…..<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
     do we provide a suitable access service for local ISPs to service
     communities in low density areas?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
     could specialist providers of content service s- eg Health, Education, Universities,
     perhaps banking, media services operate in this environment?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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     color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
     do make sure the problems of dominance that we are just about to fix don’t
     re-emerge at a different level in the architecture?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Rosemary Sinclair</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Managing Director, ATUG</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Chairman, INTUG</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>T: +61 2 94958901  F: +61
2 94193889</span></font><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>M: +61 413734490 </span></font><span
lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Email: </span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="mailto:rosemary.sinclair@atug.org.au"><span lang=FR>rosemary.sinclair@atug.org.au</span></a></span></font><span
lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Skype: rasinclair</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Please visit the ATUG website for Updates
and Information <a href="http://www.atug.com.au">www.atug.com.au</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> iamems-bounces@lists.isoc-au.org.au
[mailto:iamems-bounces@lists.isoc-au.org.au] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Brooks<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 16 September 2009
7:30 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Narelle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> ausnog@ausnog.net; ISOC-AU
Members Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ISOC-AU-mems]
[AusNOG] Quigley announces architectural "stakein the ground"</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Narelle wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><i><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>hot of the press...</span></font></i></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Quigley offers ISPs a rough sketch of NBN architecture</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>NBN Co has developed a rough architecture for the
build-out of the National Broadband Network in an attempt to keep ISPs and
carriers in the loop as to how their services will intersect with it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>See: <a
href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/155871,quigley-offers-isps-a-rough-sketch-of-nbn-architecture.aspx/0"
moz-do-not-send=true>http://www.itnews.com.au/News/155871,quigley-offers-isps-a-rough-sketch-of-nbn-architecture.aspx/0</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It looks like a layer 2 GPON network with ethernet
backhaul over classical transmission gear, presenting to service providers from
centralised locations. Each premises will have an ONT with multiple ports so
there can be physical separation of services. He says this is merely a
"stake in the ground" and will consult with ISPs.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thoughts anyone?<br clear=all>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Its broadly what we've been putting together as the
initial work in the Comms Alliance workgroups - work in progress <a
href="https://commswiki.dgit.biz/index.php/Main_Page">https://commswiki.dgit.biz/index.php/Main_Page</a>.
I think it was a diagram from this work that Quigley put up in the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brisbane</st1:place></st1:City> briefing
yesterday.<br>
<br>
TR-144 (<a href="http://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-144.pdf">http://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-144.pdf</a>)
is a fairly heavily leaned upon precedent. There will be a first-run
architectural reference model released for broader comment in a few weeks I
believe.<br>
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<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Paul Brooks               |         Mob +61 414 366 605<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Layer 10 Advisory         |         Ph  +61 2 9402 7355<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Layer 10 - telecommunications strategy & network design<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></div>

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