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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Was supposed to be a privmsg,
but true anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens,
CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>eintellego Pty
Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net
/ www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753
383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414
753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve
; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's
there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 August 2009 5:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] [nznog] What is more important? - ipv4 vs. routing
table size<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you’re on all the lists
mate, you gotta deal with it... a lot of the people aren’t on all of
them.... and their opinions are worthwhile.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It doesn’t help anything
whinging back to the list mate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens,
CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>eintellego Pty
Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net
/ www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753
383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414
753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve
; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's
there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>McDonald Richards<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 August 2009 10:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] [nznog] What is more important? - ipv4 vs. routing
table size<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Don’t APNIC have a
multi-homing assignment window of /24 for this purpose?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>PS Please stop cross-posting.
Getting the same message 3x is painful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Macca<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> nznog-bounces@list.waikato.ac.nz
[mailto:nznog-bounces@list.waikato.ac.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew
Moyle-Croft<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 August 2009 9:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nznog; Policy SIG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [nznog] [AusNOG] What is more important? - ipv4 vs. routing
table size<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<br>
Skeeve Stevens wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>There are smaller hosting
companies out there (here in ANZ at least) that want to be on, hosting,
multi-homed, but only need a /24 or /23, but they’re given the minimum
allocation on a /22 – whether they need it or not.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>A
/22 is the same routing effort as a /24. So given that most are
unlikely to need much more than a /23 I don't think it'll make a difference to
the routing table size.<br>
<br>
In terms of using IPv4 up - given that I'm seeing ISPs with eyeballs being allocated
large slabs of space (and I mean many multiples of /16s) the impact small
hosting companies companies have as /22s or /24s is pretty trivial I'd expect.<br>
<br>
Look at the CIDR reports - have a look at the aggregation possible with some
ISPs - clearly a few /24s vs /22s makes little difference in a world where even
a small bit of aggregation by the top 10 deagg people would reduce the routing
table size quite a bit.<br>
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MMC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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