<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Can AS2 definately see AS1's prefixes at Equinix in Sydney?<div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 03/08/2009, at 6:49 PM, Nick @ Deltaband wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Good idea.<br><br>Sadly it seems AS2 don't publicly announce any supported communities,<br>that i can find anyhow. Same goes for the transit provider... :(<br><br>On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft<<a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">A good place to find community defs is ONESC's<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">page: <a href="http://www.onesc.net/communities/">http://www.onesc.net/communities/</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">MMC<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 03/08/2009, at 6:11 PM, Sean K. Finn wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Can you use AS2's communities (If they have any) to influence how they<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">return traffic to AS1 ?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">E.g. take a look at Jason Sinclair from Pipe Networks presentation from<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AUSNog last year on Communities.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.ausnog.net/media/images/ausnog-02/presentations/AusNOG02-Sinclair-BGP%20Communities.pdf">http://www.ausnog.net/media/images/ausnog-02/presentations/AusNOG02-Sinclair-BGP%20Communities.pdf</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Community attributes stack, so you can tag AS1:community and AS2:community<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to influence how AS2 treats your routes, and yes it works multiple hops<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">away, as long as any intermediaries aren't stripping community tags.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-S<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Nick @ Deltaband<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Monday, 3 August 2009 6:28 PM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: [AusNOG] Asymmetric BGP question<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">So i have this BGP problem...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Traffic going between AS1 and AS2 has an asymmetric path of latency and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">doom.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On the outbound path it goes something like this:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AS1 > Transit Provider(AS1) > Equinix Sydney > AS2 - Perfect all is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">kept nicely on this side of the pacific.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The return path is like this:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AS2 > Transit Provider(AS1) > AS1 - The transit provider peers<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">directly with AS2. Great. The problem is, it's in the US. So the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">traffic on the return path is laggy as hell because it's got to cross<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the pacific twice.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">You'd think AS2, that's predominately based in Australia, would be<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">localpref'ing routes learnt from Australian IX's over US IX's but I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">guess they probably have their reasons not to.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">My question is: Other than asking the transit provider for AS1 to add<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">an AS path prepend to the route being advertised to AS2 in the US, do<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I have any other options?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">MED would only work if the transit provider peered with AS2 directly<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in Aus as well right? Rather than via Equinix?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Nick<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Matthew Moyle-Croft<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Networks, Internode/Agile<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Email: <a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</a> Web: <a href="http://www.on.net">http://www.on.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Direct: +61-8-8228-2909 Mobile: +61-419-900-366<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Reception: +61-8-8228-2999 Fax: +61-8-8235-6909<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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