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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You’ll have to pay Google a licensing fee if you want to build a
floating DC now :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/05/floating-data-center-patent-granted-to-google.ars">http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/05/floating-data-center-patent-granted-to-google.ars</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Macca<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Colwell, Scott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 May 2009 10:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Web filter a runaway success: Exetel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Just been to see "The Boat that Rocked".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Can I interest anyone in setting up a web hosting business on
a ship outside the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>territorial limits? Moor it over PPC-1 and get Bev to
hook you up!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Scott</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Matthew Moyle-Croft<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 5 May 2009 9:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Web filter a runaway success: Exetel</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>And just so no one thinks this is a good idea:<br>
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<a href="http://www.efa.org.au/2009/05/05/efa-gets-link-removal-notice/">http://www.efa.org.au/2009/05/05/efa-gets-link-removal-notice/</a><br>
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Insane and angry making.<br>
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MMC<br>
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Mark Newton wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>On 05/05/2009, at 6:51 PM, Kai wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Mmmm, so the article doesn't tell the full story, figures, but what's<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the bet that certain people in certain places will use this one <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>article<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>to basically say "Hey, see, the filter aint ALL bad..." :S<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The problem is that Peter Mancer from Watchdog has already admitted that<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>it can't satisfy even the most watered-down of the Government's <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>requirements,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>because it can't cope with URLs hosted on high-traffic sites occupying<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the blacklist.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Remember: Since last year, Conroy has claimed that he wants the ACMA<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>prohibited list to be blocked. When the ACMA prohibited list was leaked<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>that position became politically hilarious, so he changed his tune to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"almost exclusively RC" (SBS Insight 31 March 2009), then "We've<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>never stated that we were going to do anything other than Refused<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Classification" (Triple J Hack, 7 April 2009)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="http://newmatilda.com/polliegraph/?p=567">http://newmatilda.com/polliegraph/?p=567</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>The problem is that the Classification Board has Refused Classification<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>to several YouTube videos, which means the ultimate "high traffic site"<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>is on the blacklist even after Conroy has changed all the definitions.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>And Mancer has said that high-traffic sites will blow his system's <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>brains<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>out. Indeed, the failure mode is exactly the same (and for exactly the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>same reason) as the IWF Wikipedia failure in the UK in early December.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Mancer's proposed solution is to whitelist high-traffic sites, so they <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>won't<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>be blocked even if the Government insists that they must be.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>So Exetel has had a "runaway success" in testing a system which cannot<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>satisfy the Government's requirements.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Can Exetel deploy Mancer's censorbox without a Government mandate to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>deploy a voluntary filtering service in response to demand from their<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>customers? By all means, and more power to them. Hope it works out<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>for them.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>But will that meet the dictates of the Government's stated policy?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Nope. They'll need another, untested censorbox to do that.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> - mark<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mark Newton Email: <a
href="mailto:newton@internode.com.au">newton@internode.com.au</a> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> (W)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Network Engineer Email: <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
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