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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=060163601-04052009>"</SPAN>Which is why a government NBN will not be able
to deliver a commercial return, which leads us to the question is
$43,000,000,000 a wise investment to cover 90% of the population of which 68% of
the popuation already has access to 12 MB or more. Does enough of the market
require semi trailers to go and do the grocery shopping and are they prepared to
pay for it, to justify buying everyone a semi trailer to go shopping.<SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=060163601-04052009>I think
your missing the point here, a FTTH network is intended to develop new
businesses like subscription based IPTV, general converged networks,
etc.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=060163601-04052009>12Mbps
to 68% of the population is not going to be sufficient, I've got 16Mbps CIR sync
and it's almost impossible to get greater than 3 Mbps worth of
flows.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=060163601-04052009>My
figures on fully fledged IPTV is a bit vague, but I recall that 8Mbps is require
at least to run full HD with subscription services
etc.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=060163601-04052009>Regardless of what it could be used for now consider
Moore's law, if the requirements were say 10 Mbps now, in 20 years that would
equate to 80+ Mbps.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=060163601-04052009>There's
no way DSL is ever going to keep up with that.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=060163601-04052009>Sadly
change comes to all industries and IT is the worst, for those organisations
building DSLAM networks, it must be a difficult decision to risk capital return
on that equipment, inside 5 years.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=060163601-04052009>-
Martin</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>lists<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 4 May 2009 9:08 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
ausnog@ausnog.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AusNOG] Aust Govt will build
National Broadband Network,no company will be awarded the
tender.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi All</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au
href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au">Paul Brooks</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=Bevan.Slattery@staff.pipenetworks.com
href="mailto:Bevan.Slattery@staff.pipenetworks.com">Bevan Slattery</A> ; <A
title=ausnog@ausnog.net
href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:11
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AusNOG] Aust Govt will
build National Broadband Network, no company will be awarded the
tender.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Bevan Slattery wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE
cite=mid:6855B462D756004D9A700E875EF936B909041EED@pwkcrkex1.pipe.pwk
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Come on - let's do this right for a change, because if anything the past
5 years and three initiatives have proven, Government DOESN'T know best.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>He is absolutely 43,000,000,000+%
correct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>Although sometimes government has to step in,</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Absolutely correct</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>Nearly three years on and only 170,000 homes subscribed to FTTH at the
end of 2008, of which 130,000 were cable customers, according to figures
published by Arcep on Tuesday. That is from an addressable market of 550,000
homes passed within 20,500 apartment buildings, the French regulator
said.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Which is why a government NBN
will not be able to deliver a commercial return, which leads us to the
question is $43,000,000,000 a wise investment to cover 90% of the population
of which 68% of the popuation already has access to 12 MB or more. Does
enough of the market require semi trailers to go and do the grocery shopping
and are they prepared to pay for it, to justify buying everyone a semi
trailer to go shopping.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Tim</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>