<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Macca,</div><div><br></div>There are lots of people who don't grasp that more specifics will win.<div><br></div><div>Dear Peer, If you do TE via more specifics only out of transit then I'm going to prefer your transit path unless you send them to me also.</div><div><br></div><div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 01/05/2009, at 3:11 PM, McDonald Richards wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>There are many people out there (even inside AU) who fail at understanding<br>that LPREF beats pre-pending, every time. Unfortunately they still think<br>that with 500 bazillion pre-pends they will never see traffic on their<br>metered backup link.....<br><br>Macca<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Dale Shaw<br>Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 3:39 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: [AusNOG] OT: AS_PATH prepend (was: Re: Largest IP Backbone)<br><br>Hi,<br><br>On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Bill Walker<br><<a href="mailto:Bill.Walker@staff.snap.net.nz">Bill.Walker@staff.snap.net.nz</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.cymru.com/BGP/summary.html">http://www.cymru.com/BGP/summary.html</a><br></blockquote><br>Wow, these guys (and many more like them) reeeaallly like AS_PATH<br>prepending.<br><br>203.124.25.0/24 [peer013] 22335 11537 3549 8966 8966 8961 38193 38264<br>45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127<br>45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 45127<br>45127 45127 45127 45127 45127 i<br><br>inetnum: 203.124.24.0 - 203.124.31.255<br>netname: WARIDTELECOM<br>descr: WARID Telecom is a GSM service provider in Pakistan.<br>country: PK<br><br>WHY? (surely they haven't done this to tip the balance somewhere many<br>AS hops away?)<br><br>cheers,<br>Dale<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>-- <br>Matthew Moyle-Croft </div><div>Networks, Internode/Agile<br>Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia<br>Email: <a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</a> Web: <a href="http://www.on.net/">http://www.on.net</a><br>Direct: +61-8-8228-2909<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span> Mobile: +61-419-900-366<br>Reception: +61-8-8228-2999 Fax: +61-8-8235-6909<br></div></div></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br></div></div></body></html>