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color:#1F497D'><Parody><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Conroy To Rudd : How do we maintain control of the network and
brand it our own?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Rudd in Reply: Easy, pick the tenderes we WOULD have chosen if
we didn’t have to follow the select ion guidelines, because Stephen, lets face
it, we botched it. Let’s tell them all WE are building the network instead.
Then when the time comes, the same amount of money will change hands, to the
same people, with the same expertise, but WE will be in control (Maniacal
Laugh), and we wont have to waste time on political backlash. Everyone that has
any interest will be begging us for cash, and they know we can burn them if
they dissent. Industry Silenced, Let’s move on to Education reform.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'></Parody><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN by the Government - Do we care?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In response to 14.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think that we will need to look at our own staff... they are
going to want a lot of people and they will put out some pretty tempting offers
I am sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sean K. Finn
[mailto:Sean.Finn@ozservers.com.au] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens; 'ausnog@ausnog.net'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: NBN by the Government - Do we care?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>13. Who is going to peer with them? Its great having a super
fast peer-to-peer network, But I’m pretty sure Telstra won’t be impressed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>14. Where are they going to get outstanding staff that really
know their stuff?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] NBN by the Government - Do we care?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>OK all,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>I realise this morning is going to be a huge debate about what
the government has announced, but... in my opinion - Why is it bad?</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The legislative/legal issues for a Federal
government company will be far less than any private company<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The government would unlikely ever do retail (Rudd
states that now)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It would be safe to assume that everyone would
have fair and equal access – it would be hard for them not to do it<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>They are unlikely to wholesale it themselves, but
will most likely assign a few agents who buy large access to the NBN and
resell it downstream (my opinion only)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Pricing should be better than any private company
doing it<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>They are unlikely to have major financial issues
that the government can’t bail them out of by raising our taxes ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>They say they will maintain a controlling interest
– we can only assume that will stay around for a while<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I’d like to see Telstra try to refuse the
government access to exchanges – high court here we come!<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Honestly, it makes me feel more comfortable having
the government in charge<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It is going to create a massive amount of IT jobs
– a bunch of us here will probably end up working there<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>They won’t lay the fibre themselves – I see a LOT
of work for those that do – it probably won’t go to one company – this
could make Pipe, Nextgen and others very happy as they spread the work
around<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyone want to add more?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists</span><span
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