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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>13. Who is going to peer with them? Its great having a super
fast peer-to-peer network, But I’m pretty sure Telstra won’t be impressed<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>14. Where are they going to get outstanding staff that really
know their stuff?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] NBN by the Government - Do we care?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>OK all,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>I realise this morning is going to be a huge debate about what
the government has announced, but... in my opinion - Why is it bad?</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>The legislative/legal issues for a Federal
     government company will be far less than any private company<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>The government would unlikely ever do retail (Rudd
     states that now)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>It would be safe to assume that everyone would
     have fair and equal access – it would be hard for them not to do it<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>They are unlikely to wholesale it themselves, but
     will most likely assign a few agents who buy large access to the NBN and
     resell it downstream (my opinion only)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Pricing should be better than any private company
     doing it<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>They are unlikely to have major financial issues
     that the government can’t bail them out of by raising our taxes ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>They say they will maintain a controlling interest
     – we can only assume that will stay around for a while<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>I’d like to see Telstra try to refuse the
     government access to exchanges – high court here we come!<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Honestly, it makes me feel more comfortable having
     the government in charge<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>It is going to create a massive amount of IT jobs
     – a bunch of us here will probably end up working there<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#002060;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>They won’t lay the fibre themselves – I see a LOT
     of work for those that do – it probably won’t go to one company – this
     could make Pipe, Nextgen and others very happy as they spread the work
     around<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyone want to add more?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists</span><span
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color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve</span><span
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