<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div>And people wonder why I stopped doing server stuff professionally around a decade ago.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br></div><div>On 06/03/2009, at 2:38 PM, David Hughes wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>On 06/03/2009, at 12:34 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">The ONLY solid way that I know to do good server redundancy is with <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Virtual Platforms that support SAN, Fibre Channel/iSCSI with diverse <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">heads.<br></blockquote><br>And then your SAN storage goes flop and things look bad all over. And <br>anyone familiar with the QA of IBM storage controller firmware will <br>know the feeling.<br><br>So, add into that a SAN virtualisation layer, like IBM SVC so that you <br>have the same data on multiple SANs<br><br>And then add in a second datacentre for "real" redundancy. Naturally, <br>you''ll need layer 2 ethernet and fibre channel between those sites.<br><br>Then clone yourself so multiple people have exactly the same skill <br>set ;-)<br><br><br>I guess everyone has to pick their point in the "price vs return" curve.<br><br><br>David<br>...<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>-- <br>Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks<br>Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia<br>Email: <a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</a> Web: <a href="http://www.on.net/">http://www.on.net</a><br>Direct: +61-8-8228-2909<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span> Mobile: +61-419-900-366<br>Reception: +61-8-8228-2999 Fax: +61-8-8235-6909<br></div></div></span></div></span> </div><br></div></body></html>