<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm not that across satellite, but they have different beams/transponders mostly controlled by different people and that cover different areas.<div><br></div><div>If you take your 2 way system to an area not covered by the beam of the people who you've got a contract with then it won't work.</div><div><br></div><div>However if it does then it'll work. But you maybe seriously breaking local law and could be jailed, so do it carefully.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 05/03/2009, at 8:58 PM, Shane Short wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Forgive my ignorance-- but assuming this is a 2-way sat service, <br>what's to stop you configuring the service in .au and picking it up <br>and moving it to somewhere else (assuming the sat has coverage where <br>you're taking it)<br><br>I guess the question is two pronged, would it a) work and b) would <br>they be able to tell?<br><br><br>-Shane<br><br><br>On 05/03/2009, at 6:43 PM, Joe Nevin wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bill,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The Ipstar solution was designed for local country applications due <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">number of reasons, but fundamentally the design was driven by <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">regulation.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Unless Ipstar promoted this isolation, they would not have been able <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to get<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">licenses to operate in a number of countries in the region.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Note that I understand that the limitation is based on the current <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">business<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">model, and that the technology can be reconfigured if the business <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">case can<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">justify the investment. I do have an opportunity I need to explore <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">with the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ipstar sales team that is going to test this case.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">But the solution is relatively simple depending on what you want. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">We are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">running a Hughes HN Hub on different satellites, with one beam on <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">GE23 that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">simultaneously covers both the Au and NZ markets. It really depends <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">on what<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">you want to achieve?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Joe.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: Bill Walker [<a href="mailto:Bill.Walker@staff.snap.net.nz">mailto:Bill.Walker@staff.snap.net.nz</a>]<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 4:24 AM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: Joe Nevin; dasmo; Kieran Wallace<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Sat link in Indonesia<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I've had this conversation with IPStar before regarding having a <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">unit in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Australia and have it using the NZ gateway. I was told the system <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">isn't<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">designed to do that. They can only deliver to the local gateway.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">If you have any success with this, please let me know who you spoke <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bill<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Joe Nevin<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 12:01 a.m.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: dasmo; Kieran Wallace<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sat link in Indonesia<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The problems tend to be local Indonesian regulations rather than <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">being an<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Australian provider. And from memory it is reasonably tightly <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">regulated<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">within Indonesia though there are mechanisms that can be explored to <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">manage<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the risk.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Coverage is available if required - contact me directly if you need <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">further<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">information. But I will warn you that it does cost more than your <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">typical<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">terrestrial services.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Joe.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:joen@orionsat.com.au">joen@orionsat.com.au</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of dasmo<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 4:59 PM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: Kieran Wallace<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sat link in Indonesia<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I wouldn't mind knowing this as well, I have a couple of clients there<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that have issues with my delivery methods due to their second rate<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Internet<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 04/03/2009, at 18:30, "Kieran Wallace" <<a href="mailto:kieran@invert.net.au">kieran@invert.net.au</a>> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi All,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Just wondering if anyone knows a way to get an ipstar(or similar)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">satellite link delivered to Indonesia (specifically Jakarta). Would<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">there be any legal-issues behind an Aus carrier providing a service<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">over there? Seems as all traffic in our office over there is<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">destined for our head office in Perth, it would be nice if the link<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">was terminated in AU.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Please reply off-list.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks in advance,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Kieran<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">::<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">::<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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