<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Peering is much more than PIPE IX, Equinix IX or WAIX though - even in Australia.<div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 26/02/2009, at 5:48 PM, Damien Morris wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div> <font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">Tier1 = networks we can’t reach at PIPE or Equinix Exchange.. ;-)<br> <br> <br> On 26/02/09 6:15 PM, "Matthew Moyle-Croft" <<a href="mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</a>> wrote:<br> <br> </span></font><blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">Scott,<br> What do YOU mean by "Tier1"? The concept of Tier 1 in Australia is interesting as most of the global tier 1s are forced to buy transit from Optus/Telstra/AAPT. The only actual "Tier1" in Australia is VzB (AS703) I'd assert. Neither Optus, Telstra or AAPT are "Tier1s" as they all buy their international off parent companies - none of whom are Tier1s. Optus and AAPT both purchase International transit in Australia from other parties as well.<br> <br> MMC<br> <br> On 26/02/2009, at 5:13 PM, Scott Howard wrote:<br> <br> </span></font><blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">It's too many years since I've had to buy bandwidth in Australia, so... <br> <br> I'm trying to get some ballpark figures for tier 1 bandwidth delivered to a datacenter in either Sydney or Melbourne (flexible to which city and which datacenter). Preference is for 100Mbps, although we'll also consider 10Mbps or 50Mbps with the option to grow.<br> <br> Appreciate any comments as to roughly how much we should be looking to pay, and/or recommendations on who is best to talk to.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Scott.<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> AusNOG mailing list<br> <a href="AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br> </span></font></blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br> </span></font><font size="1"><font face="Helvetica, Verdana, Arial"><span style="font-size:9pt"><br> </span></font></font></blockquote> </div> </blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>-- <br>Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks<br>Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia<br>Email: <a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</a> Web: <a href="http://www.on.net/">http://www.on.net</a><br>Direct: +61-8-8228-2909<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span> Mobile: +61-419-900-366<br>Reception: +61-8-8228-2999 Fax: +61-8-8235-6909<br></div></div></span></div></span> </div><br></div></body></html>