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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I Hate to not tow the AusNOG party line, but, is it counted as
spam if he’s one of the candidates, and you are one of the listed voting
members?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What I mean to say is, we all (presumably) pay for membership to
APNIC, and Desi is looking for our vote in this organisation, to which the
spamee’s have listed themselves as contacts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Unexpected yes, Unsolicited? Maybe not. Bulk? For sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Did anyone receive one on an email NOT linked to an APNIC
address?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My view is it would depend partially each on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> How Desi harvested the email addresses of the contacts.
(Was given list by APNIC or instead trawled AP netblocks)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Terms and conditions of our APNIC membership covering election
email and candidate email communication if there is any.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I personally don’t consider this spam, and although my
vote has been allocated, I at least get to know a little bit about one of the other
running candidates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t think he’s going to be setting any fashion
trends in this neck of the woods, but at least he didn’t ask me to buy any
enhancements or medications along with his vote.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Sean.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Damien Gardner Jnr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 20 February 2009 8:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] apnic - desi valli spam?!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Did anyone else get an overwhelming amount of spam from some
extremely gay (well actually I can't decide if that moustache makes him look
just gay, or if he's a full blown sex offender..Either way it was a REALLY bad
choice of photo.. I guess it goes pretty well with the choice to spam people
asking for votes..) looking indian fellow, to every address they've ever had
listed against an apnic record, overnight?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Wish he was australian, so we could get the ACMA spam police
onto him :(<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>--DG<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:black'>Damien Gardner Jnr</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:black'>Dip.EE, GradIEAust, Master Cabler</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:black'>Rendrag Networks</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:black'>PO Box 4475, Lake Haven, NSW, 2263</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:black'>Ph: 02 6112 8626 Mob: 0417 055 052</span><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:black'>Email: <a href="mailto:damien@rendrag.net.au">damien@rendrag.net.au</a> Web: <a
href="http://www.rendrag.net.au/">http://www.rendrag.net.au/</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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