<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>In Australia we call it the Pacific Solution.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><br><div><div>On 19/02/2009, at 8:46 AM, James Wakefield wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Can't see why not - spammers wear no uniform, therefore, are Enemy <br>Combatants and do not enjoy the protections of the Geneva Convention...<br><br>Curtis Bayne wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Maybe you could give them backpacks with neuclear batteries and call <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">them "spambusters". <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Don't cross the streams! <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 18/02/2009, at 4:15 PM, "Matthew Moyle-Croft" <<a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mmc@internode.com.au</a> <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:mmc@internode.com.au">mailto:mmc@internode.com.au</a>>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Does the anti-spam team have guns and a special-ops group yet? If <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">not, why not?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">MMC<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 18/02/2009, at 4:02 PM, David Zielezna wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">G'day mate,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">You can get in touch with the Anti-Spam Team people through this <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">form: <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="http://www.acma.gov.au/interforms/australian_spam_act_advice.asp">http://www.acma.gov.au/interforms/australian_spam_act_advice.asp</a>><a href="http://www.acma.gov.au/interforms/australian_spam_act_advice.asp">http://www.acma.gov.au/interforms/australian_spam_act_advice.asp</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">They will answer all your queries.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">David Zielezna<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Senior IT Technical Officer<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">e-Security & DNCR Section<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Australian Communications and Media Authority<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">p. +61 3 9963 6790<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">f. +61 3 9963 6957<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">*From:* <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> [ <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] *On <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Behalf Of *Ben Cornish<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">*Sent:* Wednesday, 18 February 2009 10:30 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">*To:* <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">*Subject:* [AusNOG] Emails Lists - legal obligations<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">We have a couple of clients that have mass email lists to their <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">clients. Touch wood we haven’t had any spam complaints, but I guess <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">its only a matter of time.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">We are quite concerned about the implications they pose to us and <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">what the legal obligation they have to conform to in order to send <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">these mass emails out.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Does anyone have a link to where it states what is required or what <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">is considered illegal distribution/SPAM ?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I once recall, they were required to have a Dual Opt in and a <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">unsubscribe feature ?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Any help would be grateful.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ben Cornish<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">National Network Manager<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">*Direct* 07 3234 9302 Direct: 02 8235 3520 <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">*Mobile *0417 617 204<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">*Email* <<a href="mailto:Ben.Cornish@brennanit.com.au">mailto:Ben.Cornish@brennanit.com.au</a>> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:Ben.Cornish@brennanit.com.au">mailto:Ben.Cornish@brennanit.com.au</a>> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:Ben.Cornish@brennanit.com.au">mailto:Ben.Cornish@brennanit.com.au</a>> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 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